Timing Play or not

[Hoosier_Dave]

Saw this last nite in WS and got me thinking.

R1 on 3B. 2 outs. BR bunts toward 1B. F3 picks up bunt and goes to tag BR. BR stops and a) does not move or b) backs up. F3 realizes that BR has stopped and jogs forward to tag BR. F3 crosses plate before tag in both instances.

Does the run count?

This may seem trivial to some of you, but I'm relatively new to umpiring.

[tcblue13]

The run does not count. The BR was retired before reaching first base for the 3rd out. In Softball, once the BR backs up, he is out anyway. I don't know about OBR.

[BretMan]

No runs can score when the third out is made by either: a force out, or; the batter-runner being put out before reaching first base.

And, since somebody mentioned it, in OBR the B/R is not out for retreating back toward home to avoid a tag. However, if he retreats all the way back to and past home plate he is to be declared out.

(PS: I'm sure that you mean R1 crossed the plate ahead of the tag...Not F3!)

[bigsig]

In ASA the BR is out as soon as they step back toward home plate to either avoid or delay a tag. Rule 8 Sec 2H