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Old Thu Jun 17, 2010, 01:19pm
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Because the pesky rulebook says so.
mbcrowder,

WTF are you talking about?

Cite, please. I must have missed that part.

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Old Thu Jun 17, 2010, 03:06pm
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OK guys, I now understand what I need to do in the future. I will call time
and let my partner know what I saw and also tell them that the ruling
was wrong, and if they want to change it fine and if not fine also. Its not a
judgement call so an attempt to make it right is expected of me, but I must
make sure I never show my partner up even if he is butt head.
Thanks for all the input and the different opinions.
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Old Thu Jun 17, 2010, 03:16pm
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OK guys, I now understand what I need to do in the future. I will call time
and let my partner know what I saw and also tell them that the ruling
was wrong, and if they want to change it fine and if not fine also. Its not a
judgement call so an attempt to make it right is expected of me, but I must
make sure I never show my partner up even if he is butt head.
Thanks for all the input and the different opinions.
Correct. Note that in games where the UIC is other than the plate umpire, you might get a slightly different answer.
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Old Thu Jun 17, 2010, 03:25pm
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mbcrowder,

WTF are you talking about?

Cite, please. I must have missed that part.

JM
Huh? I know you've been around when we discussed this before. Besides, what are you going to do in this particular sitch - yell out after he's said IFF, "No, No, it's Infield Fly if Fair!!!" Rulebook says not to overrule partner's call. He made the IFF call, it's his call.

Fixing the misapplied RULE, however, is either umpire's duty.
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Old Thu Jun 17, 2010, 03:49pm
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Fixing the misapplied RULE, however, is either umpire's duty.
if you have a hard a** for a partner you DO NOT get into a pi****g match on the field.

Let the manager do "his" job and protest the call (if the league has protest procedures in place) If they do not, have a post game in the parking lot.

if this "clown" doesn't KNOW the IFR then make certain you do not work with him again as there are other rules which are way more complicated then the IFR.

In a nutshell you DO NOT get into an argument with your partner on the field.

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Old Thu Jun 17, 2010, 07:45pm
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Rulebook says not to overrule partner's call. He made the IFF call, it's his call.

Fixing the misapplied RULE, however, is either umpire's duty.
The fact that he made an IFF call is neither here nor there. The fact that he called an out for IFF on a foul ball is the problem, and I agree with your last statement. This needs to be fixed.
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Old Thu Jun 17, 2010, 04:52pm
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mbcrowder,

WTF are you talking about?

Cite, please. I must have missed that part.

JM
I agree. It is not a pesky rule book thing. It is a mechanic thing........
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