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Old Mon Oct 27, 2008, 09:31pm
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What's the ruling?
This play happened about 20 years ago in my son's Babe Ruth League game.
Situation: Tie game bottom of the 7th(final inning)1 out, bases loaded. Batter hits a fly to left which is caught for out #2. Everyone in the park sees the runner from 3rd leave early and he beats the throw to the plate with the winning run. The runner from 2nd advanced to 3rd base on the throw home. The coach yells at his team to stay on the field and he calls time, goes to the mound for a conference to tell the pitcher proper mechanics for an appeal play. The pitcher gets the ball, steps back off the rubber and the runner from 3rd breaks for home, the pitcher throws the ball to the catcher and the runner is tagged out. The ump calls game over. The coach is wanting to continue and make the appeal but the ump tells him it's too late.
What is the correct ruling??
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Old Mon Oct 27, 2008, 09:47pm
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Babe Ruth uses OBR and therefore if the defense makes a play then they may no longer make an appeal, even if the play is initiated by the offense. Other rule sets would be different.
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Old Mon Oct 27, 2008, 09:53pm
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How about if the pitcher tossed it to the catcher, who walked it up the line toward third, tagged the runner on the way by, and tossed it to third for the appeal. Would that be allowed?
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Old Mon Oct 27, 2008, 09:58pm
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How about if the pitcher tossed it to the catcher, who walked it up the line toward third, tagged the runner on the way by, and tossed it to third for the appeal. Would that be allowed?
Of course that is allowed. If you are asking would an appeal on R3 be allowed afterwards, then no it would not. Someone else can quote Roder or Evans on what constitutes a play but it will say something about attempting to put out a runner.
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Old Mon Oct 27, 2008, 10:03pm
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you could've just told your player to throw it to F5 and live ball appeal. the coach having to explain how to do the appeal is often misunderstood...if the play is still live.
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Old Mon Oct 27, 2008, 10:57pm
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Throw the ball directly to 3B and have F5 tell the ump he is appealing runner leaving early. Don't even have to tell him if the appeal is obvious.

I had a District championship game end with a win once when a fly ball was caught in CF for 2nd out, runner on 2b left early and F8 threw directly to F6 at the bag. It was an obvious appeal.
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Old Tue Oct 28, 2008, 11:51am
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Once he threw home to play on the runner from third (after the conference), they lose the right to appeal. The umpire was correct.
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20 years ago?
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Old Tue Oct 28, 2008, 12:49pm
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20 years ago?
thinking the same thing...must still hurt. Junior has to be in his 30's now!
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Old Tue Oct 28, 2008, 11:43pm
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What's the problem with having a memory? I remember when junior was born too.
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Old Wed Oct 29, 2008, 01:50am
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What's the problem with having a memory? I remember when junior was born too.
You remember when Babe Ruth was born!
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Old Wed Oct 29, 2008, 02:26am
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I got punched out on an inside pitch by this tall, young, well-known local umpire in a Babe Ruth game in 1969.

Last month I umpired a 18-over game with him. During the pregame, I described the pitch he punched me out on like it was thrown hours before. I even remember the sound of my coach saying "Good eye"!

Yeah, you remember.
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Oh, yeah...you remember...

My 1975 Pony League championship game ended on a play at the plate, when a squat old cuss of an umpire we called "Barney Google" ruled a bunt that sure looked foul as fair, and the runner from third snuck in as our catcher lollygagged after the ball.

Remember it like it was yesterday...
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Oh, yeah...you remember...

My 1975 Pony League championship game ended on a play at the plate, when a squat old cuss of an umpire we called "Barney Google" ruled a bunt that sure looked foul as fair, and the runner from third snuck in as our catcher lollygagged after the ball.

Remember it like it was yesterday...
"Ya lollygagg onto the field, Ya lollygagg off the field. So, do you know what that makes you?"

"Lollygaggers!"

thanks to the movie Bull Durham for that remark
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Yeah, I remember sitting on the bench every game and then our coach remembering the 2 defensive innings rule and cussing as he had to find places to put me where I could do the least damage. Sometimes that meant I was the catcher.

I really want to apologize to those umpires who were behind me. What goes around has now come around and I think I have now paid my dues.
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