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Do I dump this coach? No, I don't see anything that warrants an ejection. The fact that he continued discussing the call as long as he did was the fault of the PU. Did he pull out a rule book? If so, I didn't see it.

As far as the batter's box is concerned, the batters front foot looked to be out of the box. Whether the box was drawn correctly, who knows. Don't most coach's notice a box that is drawn too small? I also have asked boxes to be redrawn if they are wrong.
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Old Mon Nov 19, 2007, 07:46pm
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i bet if the umpire did not call the batter out in this clip, neither coach would have said a thing.
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Old Mon Nov 19, 2007, 08:35pm
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What About This Coach; Dump Him?
The question is far too hypothetical. I can't imagine any way in hell I would ever be in that situation.
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The question is far too hypothetical. I can't imagine any way in hell I would ever be in that situation.
Exactly my thinking.
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First argument out of coach's mouth: "It's supposed to be four feet up, three feet back!".

Play a lot of softball, do ya coach?

I'll generally listen to any legitimate question from a coach, but when the first words out of his mouth are to argue a non-existant rule he is on thin ice with a short leash!

Would I eject him? Depends on his actions after I tell him, "Coach, the batter's box extends three feet forward from the side of the plate. The batter contacted the ball with his foot entirely out of the box. He is out and we are finished. Please return to your dugout".

This reply would be about 15 seconds into the conversation, not after arguing about it for two or three minutes!
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Old Tue Nov 20, 2007, 12:10am
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First argument out of coach's mouth: "It's supposed to be four feet up, three feet back!".
That wasn't the coach - it was the guy with the camera (or someone near the camera).
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OOO, period.
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Old Tue Nov 20, 2007, 03:53pm
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In my many years of umpiring I have seen some pretty weird batters boxes, most of which I have erased and gone with nothing or had them re lined. I dont recall having to call a batter out for being out of a box (drawn or not) but have warned a few for it.
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I have called maybe one or two batters out for stepping on the plate, but never out of the box. I had a Legion coach several years ago get on my case about not calling a batter out of the box, even though there were no boxes drawn. That discussion lasted about 2 seconds after I told him I was stopping the game for 1 minute so he could draw boxes.
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I have called maybe one or two batters out for stepping on the plate, but never out of the box. I had a Legion coach several years ago get on my case about not calling a batter out of the box, even though there were no boxes drawn. That discussion lasted about 2 seconds after I told him I was stopping the game for 1 minute so he could draw boxes.
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I would hope you called them out for contacting the ball with their foot on the ground outside of the box rather than for just stepping on the plate.


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Old Tue Nov 20, 2007, 05:55pm
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Bob,

I would hope you called them out for contacting the ball with their foot on the ground outside of the box rather than for just stepping on the plate.


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...only if he wasn't doing a game by FED or NCAA rules which prohibit such action.
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