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Old Tue Aug 01, 2006, 10:36pm
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POS service

i think we can all agree that the service at POS is terrible. But is there a mask that is lighter than their zero gravity mask? if so, please let me know.

i just rec'd honig's light weight mask and it isn't bad, but nothing like POS zero gravity
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Old Wed Aug 02, 2006, 07:58am
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i think we can all agree that the service at POS is terrible. But is there a mask that is lighter than their zero gravity mask? if so, please let me know.

i just rec'd honig's light weight mask and it isn't bad, but nothing like POS zero gravity
Try this thread:
Light Masks
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Old Wed Aug 02, 2006, 09:00am
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i think we can all agree that the service at POS is terrible. But is there a mask that is lighter than their zero gravity mask? if so, please let me know.
WARNING: I, along with another umpire, work college and independent minor league baseball and the Zero Gravity is not indicated for that caliber of baseball. In fact, the *****y lady that now owns the place (I forget her name) said the mask is basically aluminum and should not be used for anything higher than high school.

We did not know that when we bought it last year and he suffered a concussion when a foul ball BROKE one of the welds that hold the bars together. I took one shot and it caved in the right side of the mask. Personally, I would not trust this mask and ANY level.

If your looking for a replacement, Diamond just came out with a new mask that is one of the lightest on the market (and does NOT sacrifice saftey). Also, All-Star has a really light double bar mask (the bars are really thin) and a few of the big leaguers have switched to it.
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Old Wed Aug 02, 2006, 01:06pm
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WARNING: I, along with another umpire, work college and independent minor league baseball and the Zero Gravity is not indicated for that caliber of baseball. In fact, the *****y lady that now owns the place (I forget her name) said the mask is basically aluminum and should not be used for anything higher than high school.

We did not know that when we bought it last year and he suffered a concussion when a foul ball BROKE one of the welds that hold the bars together. I took one shot and it caved in the right side of the mask. Personally, I would not trust this mask and ANY level.

If your looking for a replacement, Diamond just came out with a new mask that is one of the lightest on the market (and does NOT sacrifice saftey). Also, All-Star has a really light double bar mask (the bars are really thin) and a few of the big leaguers have switched to it.
The new Diamond is great! At least five of our local group have broken the POS ZG mask (They will not warranty anything except the pads) have switched to either the Diamond or Wilson/Davis.
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Old Wed Aug 02, 2006, 01:22pm
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WARNING: I, along with another umpire, work college and independent minor league baseball and the Zero Gravity is not indicated for that caliber of baseball. In fact, the *****y lady that now owns the place (I forget her name) said the mask is basically aluminum and should not be used for anything higher than high school.

We did not know that when we bought it last year and he suffered a concussion when a foul ball BROKE one of the welds that hold the bars together. I took one shot and it caved in the right side of the mask. Personally, I would not trust this mask and ANY level.

If your looking for a replacement, Diamond just came out with a new mask that is one of the lightest on the market (and does NOT sacrifice saftey). Also, All-Star has a really light double bar mask (the bars are really thin) and a few of the big leaguers have switched to it.
Sal, Thanks for that. I actually told POS + to forget my order and did order the ALL STAR mask that you are talking about here. If it arrives on time, I will glowingly endorse the vendor on these here pages

Joe

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Old Wed Aug 02, 2006, 02:49pm
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zero gravity

thanks for the info!! how can they even endorse the mask for high school where you get the occasional kid throwing 85+. my mask has been on back order for months - i think i'll cancel it unless someone else has another opinion to offer.
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Old Wed Aug 02, 2006, 02:56pm
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I have umpired quite a few that could throw 90+ in high school, and it's not that uncommon. Many years ago, before the advent of hard shell protectors, I took one in the collarbone from Chad Hutchinson, who had been clocked in the mid-90's. Three week bruise.
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Old Wed Aug 02, 2006, 02:56pm
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thanks for the info!! how can they even endorse the mask for high school where you get the occasional kid throwing 85+. my mask has been on back order for months - i think i'll cancel it unless someone else has another opinion to offer.
No, in fact the All Star frame is quite good and very very light, the lightest Ive ever had & seen.
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Old Wed Aug 02, 2006, 03:30pm
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My Zero Gravity mask has taken foul shots and "untouched by glove" fast balls at the HS, Senior Legion, collegiate and MSBL levels and shows no sign of dinging or denting.
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Old Wed Aug 02, 2006, 03:45pm
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has anyone else had good or bad experiences with the zero grav?

is the zero grav the lightest? if so, what is right behind it? diamond? all-star?
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Old Wed Aug 02, 2006, 07:32pm
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Originally Posted by Sal Giaco
WARNING: I, along with another umpire, work college and independent minor league baseball and the Zero Gravity is not indicated for that caliber of baseball. In fact, the *****y lady that now owns the place (I forget her name) said the mask is basically aluminum and should not be used for anything higher than high school.

We did not know that when we bought it last year and he suffered a concussion when a foul ball BROKE one of the welds that hold the bars together. I took one shot and it caved in the right side of the mask. Personally, I would not trust this mask and ANY level.

If your looking for a replacement, Diamond just came out with a new mask that is one of the lightest on the market (and does NOT sacrifice saftey). Also, All-Star has a really light double bar mask (the bars are really thin) and a few of the big leaguers have switched to it.
i was wondering if it was just my mask that did this, but mine was also severely dented. in a game this past weekend, which is my last one on the schedule for the summer, i took a very hard shot and it added another bent bar to the mix. i wont be using it anymore, and will be looking to get a different model
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