Helping a partner with his call

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by youngump

Sure, but am I correct in saying that there is nothing particular for this situation in the book?

You are correct. That is why I questioned the claim of what the "book" had to say about it.

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

You are correct. That is why I questioned the claim of what the "book" had to say about it.

I have lost which situation you two are on, so please clarify.

Also, is "Single runner advancement from second to third on a fly ball tag up is one of the times" BU covers 3rd; the answer to my question about apparent contradiction?

[youngump]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

I have lost which situation you two are on, so please clarify.

Also, is "Single runner advancement from second to third on a fly ball tag up is one of the times" BU covers 3rd; the answer to my question about apparent contradiction?

Runner on 1st, steal of 2nd, runner advances to third. Who has the call per the book?

Irish argues that nobody should call it, and I argue that we should start with batted ball mechanics and then discard them by communicating with each other. Seriously though, my contention earlier that it is in the book comes from trying to find the closest fit and going with that but I agree it's a long stretch. I'm just not sure that there's anything better.

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by youngump

Runner on 1st, steal of 2nd, runner advances to third. Who has the call per the book?

Irish argues that nobody should call it, and I argue that we should start with batted ball mechanics and then discard them by communicating with each other. Seriously though, my contention earlier that it is in the book comes from trying to find the closest fit and going with that but I agree it's a long stretch. I'm just not sure that there's anything better.

Without checking a book, I have always learned the PU covers 3rd on a subsequent play (e.g., stealer of 2nd advancing to 3rd is a subsequent play); unless the PU has a play at home.

[youngump]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

Without checking a book, I have always learned the PU covers 3rd on a subsequent play (e.g., stealer of 2nd advancing to 3rd is a subsequent play); unless the PU has a play at home.

I think there's somewhat of a shared understanding that this is the right way to do it. But I don't think the book says that.

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by youngump

I think there's somewhat of a shared understanding that this is the right way to do it. But I don't think the book says that.

Fine, and the book says that steals from 2nd to 3rd are PU call. We do not do that, unless the BU is far away covering R2.
It is all from pre-game, AFAIK BU covers 3rd when:
last runner on batted ball
play at 3rd when it is the first play from the infield
steal of 3rd
pickoff at 3rd
runner from 2nd on a tag up
PU has a play at the plate or is trapped

[youngump]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

Fine, and the book says that steals from 2nd to 3rd are PU call.

Really, where is that?

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by youngump

Runner on 1st, steal of 2nd, runner advances to third. Who has the call per the book?

Irish argues that nobody should call it, and I argue that we should start with batted ball mechanics and then discard them by communicating with each other. Seriously though, my contention earlier that it is in the book comes from trying to find the closest fit and going with that but I agree it's a long stretch. I'm just not sure that there's anything better.

I have always been in the corner of the PU making this call. As I was trained years ago and as I instructed in multiple schools and clinics, the PU has the call at 3rd in this situation. The plate umpire has the time and unobstructed access to 3rd base.