F2 Throws to F5 to Hold R2

[Manny A]

Originally Posted by chapmaja

What is the opinion on this if we were talking high school rules? My personal opinion, since F5 chases R2 back towards second, she is making a play on the runner, therefore no problem.

F2's throw itself has to be a play on the runner. Read the definition of Play in the rule book. It says, in part, "An attempt by a defensive player to retire a runner or a batter-runner." F2 is not making a play by throwing to F5 here unless it's clear that R2 is running for third.

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by Manny A

F2's throw itself has to be a play on the runner. Read the definition of Play in the rule book. It says, in part, "An attempt by a defensive player to retire a runner or a batter-runner." F2 is not making a play by throwing to F5 here unless it's clear that R2 is running for third.

They're making as much of play on the runner here as they are when F2 throws to F3 on a base on balls, which Fed says is a play. NFHS can't have it both ways.

[3afan]

Originally Posted by Manny A

So, in an ASA game, with a runner on first base, the catcher throws the ball to F5 at third after the first pitch of Ball to the batter. You're suggesting that we completely ignore it.

yes - its nothing

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Manny A

F2's throw itself has to be a play on the runner. Read the definition of Play in the rule book. It says, in part, "An attempt by a defensive player to retire a runner or a batter-runner." F2 is not making a play by throwing to F5 here unless it's clear that R2 is running for third.

This is not what is taught. This throw is not against the rules.

[tcannizzo]

Originally Posted by Manny A

F2's throw itself has to be a play on the runner. Read the definition of Play in the rule book. It says, in part, "An attempt by a defensive player to retire a runner or a batter-runner." F2 is not making a play by throwing to F5 here unless it's clear that R2 is running for third.

That throw could be a documented play in their play book; or even an invented play on the spot. Who knows what evil lurks....

[Manny A]

Originally Posted by tcannizzo

That throw could be a documented play in their play book; or even an invented play on the spot. Who knows what evil lurks....

A "documented play in their play book" may be quite different than the definition of play in the rule book.