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[xtremeump]

Authoritative Opinion by Jay Miner for 2013 NYSSO Rules (Not an Official Interpretation) 06-14-13.

1. R2 from second base is not out for passing R1 from third base because R2 did not completely pass R1 (R/S #39). Therefore, R2’s run scores.

2. Because R2 from second legally scored, R2 is no longer a runner, and R1 from third must be tagged to be retired. Because R1 was not tagged and did touch the plate R1’s run also counts. R1 was not forced to home because R1 could theoretically return to third with no runner forcing R1 home.

3. The Home Team Wins 2-1. (Have the car running and facing out in the parking lot)

Note: This play requires an official interpretation and/or a casebook play.



Opinions may be sent to: [email protected]

[Steve M]

Originally Posted by xtremeump

Authoritative Opinion by Jay Miner for 2013 NYSSO Rules (Not an Official Interpretation) 06-14-13.

1. R2 from second base is not out for passing R1 from third base because R2 did not completely pass R1 (R/S #39). Therefore, R2’s run scores.

2. Because R2 from second legally scored, R2 is no longer a runner, and R1 from third must be tagged to be retired. Because R1 was not tagged and did touch the plate R1’s run also counts. R1 was not forced to home because R1 could theoretically return to third with no runner forcing R1 home.

3. The Home Team Wins 2-1. (Have the car running and facing out in the parking lot)

Note: This play requires an official interpretation and/or a casebook play.



Opinions may be sent to: [email protected]

Sorry, not accepted as authoritative opinion.

[xtremeump]

Originally Posted by Steve M

Sorry, not accepted as authoritative opinion.

Jay would love to hear from you please e-mail him and voice your opinion. I dare you.

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by xtremeump

Jay would love to hear from you please e-mail him and voice your opinion. I dare you.

Where do you get the ridiculous idea that a one-State interpreter who applies baseball to everything is any kind of dare to be challenged by any of us, let alone one who has proven himself like Steve?

[xtremeump]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

Where do you get the ridiculous idea that a one-State interpreter who applies baseball to everything is any kind of dare to be challenged by any of us, let alone one who has proven himself like Steve?

Jay puts his e mail on here for all of you experts to teach him something. Do not feal challenged be enlightened. Jay checks his e mail almost as much of all of you experts come on this forum. Again he has invited you to contact him. I DARE YOU .
Nobody on hear will lol.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by xtremeump

Jay puts his e mail on here for all of you experts to teach him something. Do not feal challenged be enlightened. Jay checks his e mail almost as much of all of you experts come on this forum. Again he has invited you to contact him. I DARE YOU .
Nobody on hear will lol.

Yet the question from cecilone still stands?

[xtremeump]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Yet the question from cecilone still stands?

Simply answer the OP question ??? That play will never happen, but if we all can learn something thats a good thing. Cecilone and Irish have a question not a comment on how the CLONES do things, first time for everything. Its ok that you guys are afraid of Jay, he likes it that way.

[Gulf Coast Blue]

Originally Posted by xtremeump

Authoritative Opinion by Jay Miner for 2013 NYSSO Rules (Not an Official Interpretation) 06-14-13.

1. R2 from second base is not out for passing R1 from third base because R2 did not completely pass R1 (R/S #39). Therefore, R2’s run scores.

2. Because R2 from second legally scored, R2 is no longer a runner, and R1 from third must be tagged to be retired. Because R1 was not tagged and did touch the plate R1’s run also counts. R1 was not forced to home because R1 could theoretically return to third with no runner forcing R1 home.

3. The Home Team Wins 2-1. (Have the car running and facing out in the parking lot)

Note: This play requires an official interpretation and/or a casebook play.



Opinions may be sent to: [email protected]

I sent him mine......just so you would not call me a chicken.

I have less experience (only 38 years umpiring) than many here.

Joel

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Gulf Coast Blue

I sent him mine......just so you would not call me a chicken.

Or even worse.........

[xtremeump]

Irish, I realy respect you and your comments, but when you really think about it CLONES are the enemy of realistic Officiating. Being a State Interpreter you have seen them. I know that there are some very smart Umpires on here, and I have learned from them. But some of the comments are CLONE coments...

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by xtremeump

Irish, I realy respect you and your comments, but when you really think about it CLONES are the enemy of realistic Officiating. Being a State Interpreter you have seen them. I know that there are some very smart Umpires on here, and I have learned from them. But some of the comments are CLONE coments...

I have really thought about it, and I've somehow managed to not come to that conclusion. Umpires running around inventing mechanics that are not recognized by their partners, or being where they should not be - those are the "enemy of realistic umpiring" if there is such a thing.

[xtremeump]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

I have really thought about it, and I've somehow managed to not come to that conclusion. Umpires running around inventing mechanics that are not recognized by their partners, or being where they should not be - those are the "enemy of realistic umpiring" if there is such a thing.

Please do not think that I am refering to most of you guys. It is a slang word that I picked up for Umpires that will not change for the good of the game. Umpires that were never trained by a school or clinic. But now they are a 30 year Umpire, & I after goine to real training and schools try to show them the new way of officiating. They do not listen, they are CLONES, they will not change at all, and they will not attened any clinics. I know that we feal diferent about a few things but I can get past that. We are in the position that we are in because we voluntered at one point in our life. Now it is our lifestyle, & i would not change a thing. Quality of LIFE is more important than anything. Sorry for the rant.

[Gulf Coast Blue]

No........in your earlier posts....you were crucifying umpires who stood by prescribed mechanics and interpretations to make a point.

Now you are trying to save your own ass.

I don't blame you. I would do the same thing.

You have shown how much NY umpires have in knowledge in real ASA interpretations........thank you for that.