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Old Sat Jun 15, 2013, 09:06pm
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Where do you get the ridiculous idea that a one-State interpreter who applies baseball to everything is any kind of dare to be challenged by any of us, let alone one who has proven himself like Steve?
Jay puts his e mail on here for all of you experts to teach him something. Do not feal challenged be enlightened. Jay checks his e mail almost as much of all of you experts come on this forum. Again he has invited you to contact him. I DARE YOU .
Nobody on hear will lol.
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Old Sun Jun 16, 2013, 07:59am
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Jay puts his e mail on here for all of you experts to teach him something. Do not feal challenged be enlightened. Jay checks his e mail almost as much of all of you experts come on this forum. Again he has invited you to contact him. I DARE YOU .
Nobody on hear will lol.
Yet the question from cecilone still stands?
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Old Sun Jun 16, 2013, 02:52pm
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Yet the question from cecilone still stands?
Simply answer the OP question ??? That play will never happen, but if we all can learn something thats a good thing. Cecilone and Irish have a question not a comment on how the CLONES do things, first time for everything. Its ok that you guys are afraid of Jay, he likes it that way.
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Old Sun Jun 16, 2013, 07:34pm
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Simply answer the OP question ??? That play will never happen, but if we all can learn something thats a good thing. Cecilone and Irish have a question not a comment on how the CLONES do things, first time for everything. Its ok that you guys are afraid of Jay, he likes it that way.
Afraid - wrong word, wrong thought. More like not accepted as authority, so not worth any effort to contact.
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Old Sun Jun 16, 2013, 09:10pm
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Simply answer the OP question ??? That play will never happen, but if we all can learn something thats a good thing. Cecilone and Irish have a question not a comment on how the CLONES do things, first time for everything. Its ok that you guys are afraid of Jay, he likes it that way.
And yet, you haven't answered a simple question.

Clone? You haven't a clue. I've posted my concerns on the wording of the rule. And based on that, I would rule on the trailer passing the lead runner. What would you do, call Jay?

I'm sure Jay is a fine umpire and does a helluva job on the field. But I don't need to call Jay, there is nothing I can learn from him. And that isn't because I'm a "clone" whatever the **** that means, but because I've been taught by some of the best umpires in the country as have quite a few other umpires on this site.
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Old Sun Jun 16, 2013, 09:26pm
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Authoritative Opinion by Jay Miner for 2013 NYSSO Rules (Not an Official Interpretation) 06-14-13.

What does Opinion mean ??? What does (Not an Official Interpretation mean) ?

Clone, I will tell you what a Clone is. Someone that will not touch a bat when it is in harms way. Jim Evans takes one whole day at his school teaching you that you are responsible to clear the bat if you can. A Clone has a Black and White way to Umpire any contest. A Clone would never think of changing his Plate Stance. A Clone would never Umpire out of there circle for fear of being exposed. Its a great game, and I have been to all of thease ASA National Umpire Clinics, Little League International Baseball/Softball Umpire School.In NY we use ASA rules for HS play, Jay is the State Interpreter.. From the very little contact I have with you guys, some is very good, some I would like you to keep the Clones away. My good friend EsqUmp is smarter than all of you put together and I come on here to find the good information. The only thing that happenes is I get discouraged and log off.

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Old Sun Jun 16, 2013, 09:29pm
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there is nothing I can learn from him.

CLONE CLONE CLONE
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Old Sun Jun 16, 2013, 10:25pm
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Wow! That was quick!

I've only been active again on this board for a few days or so after not posting here for many months, and I've already added to my ignore list!
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Old Tue Jun 18, 2013, 11:56am
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Simply answer the OP question ??? That play will never happen, but if we all can learn something thats a good thing. Cecilone and Irish have a question not a comment on how the CLONES do things, first time for everything. Its ok that you guys are afraid of Jay, he likes it that way.
That play almost did happen in my fathers slow pitch league many years ago. There were bases loaded, 2 outs, last inning. I don't recall the score. The runner at third is walking home, while the runners on second and first are sprinting trying to score. By the time the runner from 3rd gets near the plate the runner on second is going into a slide and the runner from 1st is right behind him.

The throw also came in at about the same time. The R1 (3b) touched the plate, R2 slide in under the tag, and R3 was nailed at the plate for the third out.

The only reason I know this is it was part of a discussion on the way to MIS for the NASCAR race Sunday. One of the players involved is still an idiot working at the same place and they were talking stories of his stupidity (he was the runner on 3rd).

From what I recall, and they recall, had the catcher been touching the plate when the ball was caught, R1 would have been out as a force, from a ball that was a double off the bat.
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