JUCO rule

[Andy]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

...If they show up at the plate with an illegal bat, they pay the penalty - it's that simple.

This should be the be all and end all of this particular issue.

We (umpires) should not have to check bats and/or helmets prior to the game starting, IMHO.....

[Manny A]

Originally Posted by Andy

We (umpires) should not have to check bats and/or helmets prior to the game starting, IMHO.....

I agree. In fact, our colleagues in NCAA baseball no longer have to check bats during pregame.

Unfortunately, NCAA softball still requires us to do so. I'm just trying to gain an understanding on which bats do we check. The six to twelve bats that are lined up outside the dugout are a no-brainer. It's the ten additional bats I see in batbags in the back of the dugout that the girls claim they use for warm-ups that I'm trying to understand if I should check them, or have them removed from the area.

[KJUmp]

Originally Posted by Manny A

I agree. In fact, our colleagues in NCAA baseball no longer have to check bats during pregame.

Unfortunately, NCAA softball still requires us to do so. I'm just trying to gain an understanding on which bats do we check. The six to twelve bats that are lined up outside the dugout are a no-brainer. It's the ten additional bats I see in batbags in the back of the dugout that the girls claim they use for warm-ups that I'm trying to understand if I should check them, or have them removed from the area.

If it's an NCAA game:

Walking into the dugout for bat check...

Crew: "Coach those bats that are in the batbags, we'll need them taken out and brought over here so we can check them."

Coach: "Those are [fill in the reason/excuse/rationale] bats, we don't use those in a game."

Crew: "Coach, if they're not going to be used in the game, by rule, you're going to have to remove those bats from the dugout for both games."

Coach: "OK Blue, we'll get them out of here right now."

Crew: "Thank you, coach."

Piece of cake......begin your bat check.

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by KJUmp

If it's an NCAA game:

Walking into the dugout for bat check...

Crew: "Coach those bats that are in the batbags, we'll need them taken out and brought over here so we can check them."

Coach: "Those are [fill in the reason/excuse/rationale] bats, we don't use those in a game."

Crew: "Coach, if they're not going to be used in the game, by rule, you're going to have to remove those bats from the dugout for both games."

Coach: "OK Blue, we'll get them out of here right now."

Crew: "Thank you, coach."

Piece of cake......begin your bat check.

Good script, cryptic me was just going to post "have them removed from the area."

[Big Slick]

Originally Posted by Manny A

I agree. In fact, our colleagues in NCAA baseball no longer have to check bats during pregame.

Unfortunately, NCAA softball still requires us to do so. I'm just trying to gain an understanding on which bats do we check. The six to twelve bats that are lined up outside the dugout are a no-brainer. It's the ten additional bats I see in batbags in the back of the dugout that the girls claim they use for warm-ups that I'm trying to understand if I should check them, or have them removed from the area.

Read rule 3-3-2

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Andy

This should be the be all and end all of this particular issue.

We (umpires) should not have to check bats and/or helmets prior to the game starting, IMHO.....

Well, it is known as the Fram Oil Filter Scenario......you can check it now as a group or you can deal with it one at a time at the plate.

First time I worked an AF Championship and all bats were tested and marked and the players were programed to come to the plate and show you the mark every time up, made life easy, very easy for the umpire.

Try getting that done on a regular game of any organization at any level.