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Old Thu Feb 09, 2012, 07:33am
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Jim Evans has a league/conference/assocaition of his own?
Pretty much. He is one of two people granted the rights by MLB to write an professional baseball umpire manual to be applied to MLB. Likewise, he as one of two schools (Academy of Professional Umpiring) granted permission to train umpires to become professional answers. Additionally, he was the President of the Major League Baseball Umpires' Association - perhaps you've heard of this association.

Seems like a credible source to me. Certainly better than writing down some initials of someone at a local clinic.
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Old Thu Feb 09, 2012, 09:03am
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(Evans) is one of two people granted the rights by MLB to write an professional baseball umpire manual to be applied to MLB.
Just to be clear, Evan's book is not "the Major League Umpire Manual". To present it as such is, at the least, misinformed, at the worst, just down right deceptive. The "MLBUM" is a separate entity that overrides any directive or instruction offered in "Maximizing the Two-Umpire System".

The book's title alone should should clue you in that it isn't the be-all and end-all for Major League Baseball, or even aimed at that audience. How many MLB games utilize the two-umpire system?
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Old Thu Feb 09, 2012, 01:33pm
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Just to be clear, Evan's book is not "the Major League Umpire Manual". To present it as such is, at the least, misinformed, at the worst, just down right deceptive. The "MLBUM" is a separate entity that overrides any directive or instruction offered in "Maximizing the Two-Umpire System".

The book's title alone should should clue you in that it isn't the be-all and end-all for Major League Baseball, or even aimed at that audience. How many MLB games utilize the two-umpire system?
No one with a reading comprehension level skill above third grade would need your clarification. My language is careful, specific and accurate. I never said that it was the MLB manual.

To answer your other concern, the majority of MLB umpires use the two umpire system. There are multiple levels of MLB in case you weren't aware.
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Old Thu Feb 09, 2012, 01:43pm
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I haven't decided if I should call it from the dugout or the outfield. Apparently, both have really great views!

Screw green, it ain't easy being blue!

I won't be coming here that much anymore. I might check in now and again.
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Old Thu Feb 09, 2012, 03:06pm
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Maybe we should start calling 'location' around 2nd base as well, after all the little ball peeps do (all in the name of 'safety' I guess) And while we are at it, have the BU positioned inside the bags with runners on at the time of the pitch!
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Old Thu Feb 09, 2012, 04:41pm
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When they make us start umpiring with "BB" on our backs, I'll move the bat. Until then, I'll make someone else do it. I'm guessing you serve concessions between innings as well ??
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Old Thu Feb 09, 2012, 04:53pm
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Maybe we should start calling 'location' around 2nd base as well, after all the little ball peeps do (all in the name of 'safety' I guess) And while we are at it, have the BU positioned inside the bags with runners on at the time of the pitch!
Oh, and don't forget pointing on our strike calls and calling "balk" on an IP! That'd be great, too!
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I haven't decided if I should call it from the dugout or the outfield. Apparently, both have really great views!

Screw green, it ain't easy being blue!

I won't be coming here that much anymore. I might check in now and again.
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Old Thu Feb 09, 2012, 04:55pm
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We do not have the luxury of working a 4 man system.
I am lucky to have 2 umps sometimes.

Going back quite a way (as I am pretty old), have always been taught and followed to stay away, not my business, not my responsibility. Not necessarily due to liability.
Must admit there is a rare time I may have moved one but more often been screamed at when there is a play at the plate because I paid no attention and got ready and in position for my call. What if I am worried about the darned bat and do not get ready for my call?
The bat is low on my priority list as I usually have something to see, or somewhere to go that is more important.

In my world; the on deck batter is responsible to take care of his or her teammate. They are not real far away like at a Major stadium.If the catcher is a good Joe or it is in their way, they will get rid of it.

Evans, Brink man etc. sometimes forget that we are not in the bigs.
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Old Thu Feb 09, 2012, 08:02pm
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The majority of MLB umpires use the two umpire system. There are multiple levels of MLB in case you weren't aware.
No, sorry, I'm not aware of any other levels of Major League Baseball beyond the one that calls itself "Major League Baseball" and operates thirty Major League Baseball Clubs under the umbrella of "Major League Properties".

The multiple professional levels below Major League Baseball are collectively known as "Minor League Baseball".

I've seen official Major League Baseball games using three, four and six umpires before. Which level of Major League Baseball uses two?
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Old Thu Feb 09, 2012, 09:39pm
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Old Fri Feb 10, 2012, 10:25am
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Wow.

It's not in writing (that I know of) that I wear my hat with the brim forward, over my eyes when on the plate.

I think I'm gonna turn it around next time.

Wonder if I get anymore assignments when/if Wild Bill sees me.
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Old Fri Feb 10, 2012, 10:46am
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I umpire baseball (NFHS) and fastpitch softball (NFHS, ASA, and USSSA). I am a structural engineer and therefore understand the legal arguments that ExqUmp is using to justify moving a bat or catcherr's mask, BUT there is a very BIG problem with his argument, and that is bats and catcher's masks are part of the Playing Field. And while we are required to conduct a pre-game inspection of the playing field for any safety issues, by rule bats and catcher's masks in the context of this dicussion are not safety issues per se.

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Old Fri Feb 10, 2012, 12:42pm
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Wow.

It's not in writing (that I know of) that I wear my hat with the brim forward, over my eyes when on the plate.

I think I'm gonna turn it around next time.

Wonder if I get anymore assignments when/if Wild Bill sees me.
Oh, I have a feeling you will get assignments.....may not be to the games you expect, but there will probably be assignments. Now, go get us all a nice draught, will ya'?

Think it is too early to ask where ASA states you have too run the bases in a specific order to score a run?
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