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Old Fri Jun 04, 2010, 02:54pm
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There is no such thing as two independent events occurring at the same precise moment... there is no tie.
Within the limits of human perception, yes there are. And since we're talking about a human's perception (although quite a few coaches might argue with that), ties will happen. And I would argue that you cannot prove that two independant events did NOT occur at the exact same time.

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PS - you can find exactly the reverse wording elsewhere in the book... even the book assumes there is no such thing as a tie.
The closest I could find was in the rule supplement (1.L in the book I have open) dealing with the appeal when the runner passed first base "before the throw arrives" without touching. I can accept that the offense loses the benefit of winning the tie if they fail to touch the base.
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Old Fri Jun 04, 2010, 02:59pm
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Within the limits of human perception, yes there are. And since we're talking about a human's perception (although quite a few coaches might argue with that), ties will happen. And I would argue that you cannot prove that two independant events did NOT occur at the exact same time.

The closest I could find was in the rule supplement (1.L in the book I have open) dealing with the appeal when the runner passed first base "before the throw arrives" without touching. I can accept that the offense loses the benefit of winning the tie if they fail to touch the base.
You could always say the following:

"Coach, how many races have you ever seen that resulted in a 'tie?' None. Slow it down enough, watch it carefully, and someone will ALWAYS get there first. And that's exactly what I did. "
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Old Fri Jun 04, 2010, 03:03pm
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Keep in mind that the touch of the base and the gloving of the ball, however we might try to define them, are not instantaneous events, though we treat them as such in practice. They do not occur at infinitesimally small intervals of time.

The two events certainly can occur at intervals far too short for the human eye and mind to discern. Therefore, we can have an apparent tie.
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