Handling the ball in dead ball territory

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by KJUmp

...."grabs the ground ball" (which was still on the other side of the fence, the outfield side...correct Dave?)

That's my understanding of the play as well.

The way I read the sitch, the player was standing in DBT, reached into LBT and grabbed the ball.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

That's my understanding of the play as well.

The way I read the sitch, the player was standing in DBT, reached into LBT and grabbed the ball.

That makes it a DB. Ground ball, fly ball, fair, foul, doesn't make any difference, if the player has any part of the body on the ground in DBT when contacting the ball, it is dead.

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

That makes it a DB. Ground ball, fly ball, fair, foul, doesn't make any difference, if the player has any part of the body on the ground in DBT when contacting the ball, it is dead.

Correct. So would you handle this under 8-5-K? Or two base award (since the fielder isn't supposed to handle the ball in DBT)?

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

Correct. So would you handle this under 8-5-K? Or two base award (since the fielder isn't supposed to handle the ball in DBT)?

I would have to see it. Most players don't (and shouldn't) stop playing based on where they are standing. A lot of times, they have no idea where they are in relationship to the DB line.

Today, while watching a HS game, I saw a ball bounce off F7's knee and toward DBT. The fielder ran over and picked up the ball right off the chalk. I'm thinking, good move keeping the ball in play. And then it happened!!

With a DB line clearly marked on the player's home field and obviously in the range of the fielder's view since she was looking down at the ball she was picking up, stepped into DBT when planting to throw the ball to the infield. I was completely baffled how a player on her own field completely aware of the existence of the DB line could be so unaware of what she just did. Completely clueless. Obviously, it wasn't the fielder's intent to take the ball out of play, yet that is exactly what she did.

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

I would have to see it. Most players don't (and shouldn't) stop playing based on where they are standing. A lot of times, they have no idea where they are in relationship to the DB line.

Today, while watching a HS game, I saw a ball bounce off F7's knee and toward DBT. The fielder ran over and picked up the ball right off the chalk. I'm thinking, good move keeping the ball in play. And then it happened!!

With a DB line clearly marked on the player's home field and obviously in the range of the fielder's view since she was looking down at the ball she was picking up, stepped into DBT when planting to throw the ball to the infield. I was completely baffled how a player on her own field completely aware of the existence of the DB line could be so unaware of what she just did. Completely clueless. Obviously, it wasn't the fielder's intent to take the ball out of play, yet that is exactly what she did.

But in this case, the fielder hopped over the temporary fence into DBT, reached over the fence to grab the ball, and threw it back to the infield.