Handling the ball in dead ball territory

[KJUmp]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

ASA answers needed, but open to answers for other rule sets.

From another forum:



So the fielder jumped over the fence into DBT, grabs the ground ball and throws it back in.

What say you all?

I say ASA 8-5-K.

...."grabs the ground ball" (which was still on the other side of the fence, the outfield side...correct Dave?)

Not as much of a far fetched sitch as it seemed when I first read it.

Speaking NCAA....
Can't find one that fits the sitch exactly, so I'll make a case for:
[B]NCAA 12.13
Notes:
5. If a player contacts dead-ball territory with any part of the body, including the foot or the entire portion of the foot that is in contact with the ground, she is considered to be out of play. No play is allowed.

EFFECT-The ball is dead. The batter and each runner are awarded one base, without liability to be put out, from the last base legally touched at the time the fielder entered dead-ball territory.

Once the fielder was in dead-ball territory, the fielder touching or catching a ball that was in live-ball territory created a dead-ball situation. Yes, a slightly "backwards" application of 12.3 and the applicable note, but I think it works here.