Overthrow into dead ball territory

[Ron Pilo]

Interested in knowing the verbage on overthrows and number of bases awarded when it happens.
1) thrown ball by infielder.
2) thrown ball by an out fielder
3) batted fair ball the then goes DBT.

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Ron
Seattle Officials - Women's Basketball

[DrC.]

Ron, your question sounds simple. The answer for 1 & 2 should be "2 bases from where each runner is at the time of the throw". The only exception is if it is a pickoff from the pitcher and if he/she had not stepped off the rubber before throwing to 1st or 3rd (baseball). If the Pitcher was in contact with the rubber, then it is only 1 base.
As for a batted ball, it would be "2 bases from where each runner/batter was as the time of the ball being hit".
Rules sections 7.05 and 6.09. You can go to www.majorleaguebaseball.com Look for Official
Rules on the left side.

[This message has been edited by DrC. (edited May 04, 2000).]

[jml]

not exactly, look into the rule you quoted and take note at the situations and rulings that can exist.

Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* (g) Two bases when . . .The ball is dead. When such wild throw is the first play by an infielder, the umpire, in awarding such bases, shall be governed by the position of the runners at the time the ball was pitched; in all other cases the umpire shall be governed by the position of the runners at the time the wild throw was made;
APPROVED RULING: If all runners, including the batter runner, have advanced at least one base when an infielder makes a wild throw on the first play after the pitch, the award shall be governed by the position of the runners when the wild throw was made. In certain circumstances it is impossible to award a runner two bases. Example: Runner on first. Batter hits fly to short right. Runner holds up between first and second and batter comes around first and pulls up behind him. Ball falls safely. Outfielder, in throwing to first, throws ball into stand.
APPROVED RULING: Since no runner, when the ball is dead, may advance beyond the base to which he is entitled, the runner originally on first base goes to third base and the batter is held at second base. The term "when the wild throw was made" means when the throw actually left the player's hand and not when the thrown ball hit the ground, passes a receiving fielder or goes out of play into the stands. The position of the batter runner at the time the wild throw left the thrower's hand is the key in deciding the award of bases. If the batter runner has not reached first base, the award is two bases at the time the pitch was made for all runners. The decision as to whether the batter runner has reached first base before the throw is a judgment call. If an unusual play arises where a first throw by an infielder goes into stands or dugout but the batter did not become a runner (such as catcher throwing ball into stands in attempt to get runner from third trying to score on passed ball or wild pitch) award of two bases shall be from the position of the runners at the time of the throw. (For the purpose of Rule 7.05 (g) a catcher is considered an infielder.) PLAY. Runner on first base, batter hits a ball to the shortstop, who throws to second base too late to get runner at second, and second baseman throws toward first base after batter has crossed first base. Ruling_Runner at second scores. (On this play, only if batter runner is past first base when throw is made is he awarded third base.)

[DrC.]

JML - Good catch - though a little picky!!! You are right !!!
I left out the part of the lead runner..