Unreported substitute

[rwest]

If B10 is subbing in for B1 but is unreported and the defense appeals while they are at bat, what is the penalty? The ASA rulebook doesn't mention this scenario in Rule 4.6.C.

My guess is that B10 is disqualified, all play stands (outs, runners advanced), and B1 should assume the ball/strike count. What if B1 has exhausted her re-entries and thus is ineligible to return? B10 is replaced by a valid sub, correct? What if they don't have a valid sub? I would guess we have an out. Is my thinking on this correct?

Thanks!

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by rwest

If B10 is subbing in for B1 but is unreported and the defense appeals while they are at bat, what is the penalty? The ASA rulebook doesn't mention this scenario in Rule 4.6.C.

My guess is that B10 is disqualified, all play stands (outs, runners advanced), and B1 should assume the ball/strike count. What if B1 has exhausted her re-entries and thus is ineligible to return? B10 is replaced by a valid sub, correct? What if they don't have a valid sub? I would guess we have an out. Is my thinking on this correct?

Thanks!

How can B10 sub for B1? A player already in the line-up cannot be a sub.

[David Emerling]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

How can B10 sub for B1? A player already in the line-up cannot be a sub.

I think he just messed with the nomenclature. I assume he means that "B10" was a legal substitute off the bench ... but was unreported.

David Emerling
Memphis, TN

[rwest]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

How can B10 sub for B1? A player already in the line-up cannot be a sub.

Sorry, I probably should have designated B10 as S1.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by rwest

Sorry, I probably should have designated B10 as S1.

You need to remember that ASA does allow batting line-ups to include anywhere from 8 to 12 players.

[rwest]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

You need to remember that ASA does allow batting line-ups to include anywhere from 8 to 12 players.

You're right. I was just sloppy. I know that you can have 8 (playing short handed) to 12 players (co-ed). Actually, 13 with Senior Slow Pitch (65-70-75) - 11 defensive players with 1 or 2 EP.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by rwest

If B10 is subbing in for B1 but is unreported and the defense appeals while they are at bat, what is the penalty? The ASA rulebook doesn't mention this scenario in Rule 4.6.C.

My guess is that B10 is disqualified, all play stands (outs, runners advanced), and B1 should assume the ball/strike count. What if B1 has exhausted her re-entries and thus is ineligible to return? B10 is replaced by a valid sub, correct? What if they don't have a valid sub? I would guess we have an out. Is my thinking on this correct?

Thanks!

If this is just a normal sub, S1 would be DQ'd and the starter may reenter if that is available or another sub may enter and assume the ball/strike count. ASA 4.6.C.1

[rwest]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

If this is just a normal sub, S1 would be DQ'd and the starter may reenter if that is available or another sub may enter and assume the ball/strike count. ASA 4.6.C.1

Thanks Mike!

That's what I thought. However, if no legal sub is available to assume the ball/strike count, we have an out, correct?

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by rwest

Thanks Mike!

That's what I thought. However, if no legal sub is available to assume the ball/strike count, we have an out, correct?

Yes, sir, one of forty-two!