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Old Mon Apr 26, 2004, 10:22am
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Again, my advanced apologies for posting threads regarding the test.

ASA Test Question #43. R1 is on 1B with no outs. Unreported substitute B2 is at bat with a 1-ball, 1-strike count. B2 grounds into a force out at 2B retiring R1. Before the next pitch, the defensive team notifies the umpire that B2 is unreported.

a. R1's out remains. B2 is ejected and is replaced by S1 at 1B.
b. R1's out remains. B2 is disqualified and is replaced by S1 at 1B.
c. R1's out remains. B2 is removed from 1B and disqualified. A legal substitute assumes the batting position with a count of 1-ball, 1-strike.
d. R1's out remains. B2 is called out and is disqualified. B3 comes to bat.

The ASA answer sheet reads that b is the correct answer, and cites Rule 4, Section 6.E.(4)[a-2].
Rule 4, Section 6.E. (page 74) makes b the correct answer.
But the further-cited rule, Rule 4, Section 6.E.(4)[a-2] (page 75), which covers ILLEGAL RE-ENTRY, makes d the correct answer. So it would seem that b is the correct answer to question #43, but the rule cited as supporting the answer would result in d being the correct answer.

What I am concluding from this is that in the situation described in question #43:
1.) If the unreported substitute (illegal player) is entering the game for the FIRST time, the player should be disqualified, NOT called out, and CAN be replaced on base by a legal player. (Answer b)
2.) If the unreported substitute (illegal player) is RE-ENTERING the game illegally, the player should be disqualified, AND CALLED OUT, and any additional outs recorded on the play would stand. (Answer d)

Is that correct? Is the same situation handled differently, depending on the entry status of the illegal player?

Thanks.
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Old Mon Apr 26, 2004, 10:51am
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Originally posted by Bluefoot
Again, my advanced apologies for posting threads regarding the test.

ASA Test Question #43. R1 is on 1B with no outs. Unreported substitute B2 is at bat with a 1-ball, 1-strike count. B2 grounds into a force out at 2B retiring R1. Before the next pitch, the defensive team notifies the umpire that B2 is unreported.

a. R1's out remains. B2 is ejected and is replaced by S1 at 1B.
b. R1's out remains. B2 is disqualified and is replaced by S1 at 1B.
c. R1's out remains. B2 is removed from 1B and disqualified. A legal substitute assumes the batting position with a count of 1-ball, 1-strike.
d. R1's out remains. B2 is called out and is disqualified. B3 comes to bat.

The ASA answer sheet reads that b is the correct answer, and cites Rule 4, Section 6.E.(4)[a-2].
Rule 4, Section 6.E. (page 74) makes b the correct answer.
But the further-cited rule, Rule 4, Section 6.E.(4)[a-2] (page 75), which covers ILLEGAL RE-ENTRY, makes d the correct answer. So it would seem that b is the correct answer to question #43, but the rule cited as supporting the answer would result in d being the correct answer.

What I am concluding from this is that in the situation described in question #43:
1.) If the unreported substitute (illegal player) is entering the game for the FIRST time, the player should be disqualified, NOT called out, and CAN be replaced on base by a legal player. (Answer b)
2.) If the unreported substitute (illegal player) is RE-ENTERING the game illegally, the player should be disqualified, AND CALLED OUT, and any additional outs recorded on the play would stand. (Answer d)

Is that correct? Is the same situation handled differently, depending on the entry status of the illegal player?

Thanks.
Actually, 4.6.B is the correct citation.
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Old Mon Apr 26, 2004, 02:59pm
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I think the idea is tha unreported subs have always been around and are normally carelessness. When reentry was invented, specific rules were written for it and illegal reentry was seen as cheating rather than carelessness.
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