looking for wording

[Manny A]

Wow, this discussion was so convoluted; I've never seen so many different things talked about in 15 posts. Foul ground balls, foul fly balls, detached equipment, bats hitting balls a second time...

Is it pretty much a done deal that the situation in the OP was nothing but a foul ball?

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by Manny A

Wow, this discussion was so convoluted; I've never seen so many different things talked about in 15 posts. Foul ground balls, foul fly balls, detached equipment, bats hitting balls a second time...

That's the trouble with simple ones.

Originally Posted by Manny A

Is it pretty much a done deal that the situation in the OP was nothing but a foul ball?

Yep !

[Tru_in_Blu]

Originally Posted by Manny A

Wow, this discussion was so convoluted; I've never seen so many different things talked about in 15 posts. Foul ground balls, foul fly balls, detached equipment, bats hitting balls a second time...

Is it pretty much a done deal that the situation in the OP was nothing but a foul ball?

Agreed. We spiraled off on many tangents. Some more related than others. (So was this a new world's indoor record??)

As the original poster, I do agree that this should have been simply ruled a foul ball.

And I did find the phrasing that got me confused in the first place. (That was one of those tangents.)

[jmkupka]

I went back to my post to see how much it deviated from topic, and discovered it was easily the dumbest comment/question I've ever posted here...

[soundedlikeastrike]

Originally Posted by youngump

Intentional interference with a grounded foul ball is not illegal. Find a rule to prove me wrong.

Most rule books follow the official rules of baseball, with specific alterations. Most agree that where not covered specifically by the association you are officiating, revert to OBR.

Rule 7.09 a batter or runner is out when:

7.09 It is interference by a batter or a runner when—

(b) He intentionally deflects the course of a foul ball in any manner;

Ring em up, until a ball is declared foul it is still live. It can't be declared until It passes 1st or 3rd, settles, touches something, is touched by the defense or strikes the batter in the box. There is no place for any member of the offense to touch a batted ball.

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by soundedlikeastrike

Most agree that where not covered specifically by the association you are officiating, revert to OBR.

NEVER in SOFTBALL !

[Tru_in_Blu]

Originally Posted by soundedlikeastrike

Most rule books follow the official rules of baseball, with specific alterations. Most agree that where not covered specifically by the association you are officiating, revert to OBR.

Many softball officials don't know the rules of softball. I can't believe this select group of folks know baseball rules any better.

So get the group that doesn't know the rules in the sport they're working and have them interpret their situation from some other sport they may or may not work.

Kinda like adding sulfur to hydrochloric acid. I got sent to the vice principal's office for doing that once.

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by Tru_in_Blu

Many softball officials don't know the rules of softball. I can't believe this select group of folks know baseball rules any better.

So get the group that doesn't know the rules in the sport they're working and have them interpret their situation from some other sport they may or may not work.

Well said, but missing several

Originally Posted by Tru_in_Blu

Kinda like adding sulfur to hydrochloric acid. I got sent to the vice principal's office for doing that once.