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Old Mon Sep 23, 2013, 09:06am
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I'm just trying to figure out how they got 12? You said a replacement came in, and a player went out. That's normally 11.

Now, yes, there still is a requirement to get inside the 9s. It isn't always strictly enforced, especially if the player is covered, but it seems like he wasn't here, so they may have missed one.
They had 12 players on the field after the previous play. Unfortunately the video is edited so I can't see if they had 12 on the previous play, or if prior to this play 2 came in and 1 came out, then they made a late change with the injured player and his replacement.

The full video is at the link below. The interesting stuff starts just past 37:30 or so.

Warren (MI) De LaSalle Collegiate @ Birmingham (MI) Brother Rice 2013 - YouTube

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Old Mon Sep 23, 2013, 09:18am
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More importantly than airing this crew's laundry to The Official Forum, does their supervisor have all this info?
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Old Mon Sep 23, 2013, 09:37am
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More importantly than airing this crew's laundry to The Official Forum, does their supervisor have all this info?
I'm sure they do, assuming they are assigned through an association, or conference, and not scheduled by the schools themselves. Not all officials in Michigan are assigned by an officials assigner or conference. Some schools still schedule their owns crews, although it is highly unlikely this happened in this case.
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Old Mon Sep 23, 2013, 10:21am
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They had 12 players on the field after the previous play. Unfortunately the video is edited so I can't see if they had 12 on the previous play, or if prior to this play 2 came in and 1 came out, then they made a late change with the injured player and his replacement.

The full video is at the link below. The interesting stuff starts just past 37:30 or so.

Warren (MI) De LaSalle Collegiate @ Birmingham (MI) Brother Rice 2013 - YouTube
Definitely 12 on the field at the snap and the receiver who came in definitely did not get inside the numbers. Not sure if this was an intent to deceive but it should definitely be a foul in this situation for illegal formation and illegal participation. The formation foul becomes irrelevant at that point since since IP is a bigger foul. My guess is the crew did not get a chance to get a count so they got away with one.

We have no idea on the clock for the last play but based on the time for the IG play (that was also missed) there should probably be 2-3 seconds for the last play. I would have started the clock on the RFP but absent the IG call that's not an option.

Go back to the play before the IP/IF. They also badly missed a forward progress spot that should have started the clock on the RFP as well. What about the mechanic of the L releasing before the ball was snapped? And the H starting on the field?
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Old Mon Sep 23, 2013, 05:45pm
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Both schools are part of the Catholic League. Officials for their games are usually assigned by the Archdiocese of Detroit.

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Old Mon Sep 23, 2013, 10:15pm
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Both schools are part of the Catholic League. Officials for their games are usually assigned by the Archdiocese of Detroit.
Are they assigned by the league or does the league contract with an assigner to assign games for the CHSL? I know many leagues do contract with assigners to assign officials, I work as an assigner in a different sport.
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Old Tue Sep 24, 2013, 01:20am
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The athletic director for the archdiocese is a registered assigner.
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Old Wed Oct 02, 2013, 08:33pm
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The play that starts at approx. 37:57 shows two players enter the field and one leave. There is 12 on the field for the play. And why is the HL so far on the field at the snap? On the final play he is at least 20 yards away from the catch making that call.
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Old Mon Oct 07, 2013, 12:53am
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On the play with the IG the Line Judge heads down field before the snap. Is this an approved mechanic?
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