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Old Thu Nov 03, 2011, 07:36am
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Like Rogers Redding. He basically says slapping the snap is either encroachment or snap infraction, if the snap is slow enough to be slapped, it is not a legal snap.

Here is a play from Redding's NFHS Football Rules. "

Example 3-19 After the ready, all Team A players are set. As A53 snaps the ball, B72 reaches in and knocks the ball away. RULING: The umpire must decide whether the snap was illegal or B72 encroached.

It is highly unlikely the preceding example could occur without a foul. In practicality, for a defensive player to knock the ball away, either the snapper would have to hesitate after lifting the ball making the snap illegal and thus allowing the opponent enough time to touch the ball, or the Team B player would have to put his hand into the neutral zone before the snap."



psu I also posted this.

That is not just my interpretation. I also have talked with officials that work games every Friday and some that have even done State Finals, that do not agree with you.
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Old Thu Nov 03, 2011, 08:50am
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Like Rogers Redding. He basically says slapping the snap is either encroachment or snap infraction, if the snap is slow enough to be slapped, it is not a legal snap.

Here is a play from Redding's NFHS Football Rules. "

Example 3-19 After the ready, all Team A players are set. As A53 snaps the ball, B72 reaches in and knocks the ball away. RULING: The umpire must decide whether the snap was illegal or B72 encroached.

It is highly unlikely the preceding example could occur without a foul. In practicality, for a defensive player to knock the ball away, either the snapper would have to hesitate after lifting the ball making the snap illegal and thus allowing the opponent enough time to touch the ball, or the Team B player would have to put his hand into the neutral zone before the snap."

Actually what he says is the umpire must decide whether or not there has been an infraction.

Maybe there is, maybe there isn't. While it's highly unlikely, it could happen and George leaves that door open.

The one thing for sure is, the officials, not some loud mouthed narcissistic assistant coach gets to make that determination.

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Really?



either the snapper would have to hesitate after lifting the ball making the snap illegal



Sounds pretty cut and dried to me.
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Old Thu Nov 03, 2011, 03:41pm
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Rogers Redding doesn't write the Redding guide.
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Old Thu Nov 03, 2011, 04:22pm
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2011 Redding Study Guide to NFHS Football Rules
A 200 page study guide authored by George Demetriou, and originally created by Rogers Redding to break down and review the National Federation of High School



Fair enough, but Ol' George knows his business almost as good as Rut does.
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Rogers Redding doesn't write the Redding guide.
And it is not an NF official guide. It means almost nothing in interpretations of any kind.

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And it is not an NF official guide. It means almost nothing in interpretations of any kind.

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Sure it does. It's good enough for my crew and that's all that really matters when we're working.

It's the best publication of its kind out there, IMO.
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Sure it does. It's good enough for my crew and that's all that really matters when we're working.

It's the best publication of its kind out there, IMO.
Never used it and probably never will. If we need an interpretation we call the people in our state. We have 3 state clinicians on my crew and they can easily get an answer if need be. As I said, I cannot go to people and say, "In the Roger Redding book......it says."

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Sure it does. It's good enough for my crew and that's all that really matters when we're working.

It's the best publication of its kind out there, IMO.
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Perhaps we should meet in Beloit and write a new one.
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