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Old Wed Sep 15, 2010, 11:56am
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I don't understand. Please help me understand what you are doing on this play......

Are you throwing a bag at the 1 and then once the touch at the 4 happens picking your bag up at the one and dropping it at the four? Are you simply getting the spot at the 4 without a bag?

I'm mainly a WH, so my bag rarely (if ever) comes off my belt (I had a momentum exception on a kickoff earlier this year, the only time I needed my bag). It is my understanding of the relevant rules that you need *every* first touching spot because R gets its choice of any of them. You also need the end of the kick. I understand that practically only one of the first touching spots will ever be used, but you certainly *need* the one at the four on this play, don't you?
You are correct Rich. If the time between the touching at the 1 and 4 is short and you aren't in too much of a hurry, you might only get the bag down at the 4. If you had already dropped it at the 1 and then it was touched again at the 4, you would either drop a second bag or move your first bag after the play. I've typically heard to get a bag down at each spot of first touching but that isn't always practical or logical. For example, if K touched it at the 20 and again at the 16 and 14, there is no reason to have bags at the 16 and 14. The key is to make sure you somehow have the 4 spotted in a play like this.
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Old Wed Sep 15, 2010, 02:19pm
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For example, if K touched it at the 20 and again at the 16 and 14, there is no reason to have bags at the 16 and 14. The key is to make sure you somehow have the 4 spotted in a play like this.
So are you saying you are going to have a hard time figuring out to put the ball at the 20?

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Old Wed Sep 15, 2010, 02:26pm
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So are you saying you are going to have a hard time figuring out to put the ball at the 20?

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Nope...that one goes at the 20 because it is the best spot of first touching for R. It doesn't take away the fact the 14 and 16 are also spots of first touching but you probably don't need to bag them because R is not likely to take the ball at those spots.
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Old Wed Sep 15, 2010, 02:49pm
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Nope...that one goes at the 20 because it is the best spot of first touching for R. It doesn't take away the fact the 14 and 16 are also spots of first touching but you probably don't need to bag them because R is not likely to take the ball at those spots.
You ask which spot they want? Really?

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Old Wed Sep 15, 2010, 03:41pm
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You ask which spot they want? Really?

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No because it's obvious they will take the best first touching spot over the dead ball spot. That's not what we are discussing here. You are saying the only first touching spot is the first one and that's not the case. It could be the second or third one if they exist.
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