Questionable Calls Superbowl 43

[jaybird]

Originally Posted by Ed Hickland

I've been watching airplanes go over my house for 25 years...that does not make me a pilot!

Only if you stayed at a Holiday Inn Express.

[KWH]

Originally Posted by fljet

In 23 years of watching multiple NFL games per week, I have never seen that call

While your impressive resume clearly contains some of the most notable and absolutley invaluable experiance on this board,

Out of curiosity, is that the only nail you have to hang your hat on?

WOW!!!

[Ed Hickland]

Originally Posted by fljet
In 23 years of watching multiple NFL games per week, I have never seen that call

Originally Posted by KWH

While your impressive resume clearly contains some of the most notable and absolutley invaluable experiance on this board,

Out of curiosity, is that the only nail you have to hang your hat on?

WOW!!!

Definitely impressive!

He has more experience than Terry McAulay and Ed Hochuli combined.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by fljet

Here are some of my questionable calls of the game, Im waiting on you guys to defend your boys like usual but oh well I know that game was a joke to most average fans who wanted to see a good game on this national holiday of sorts.

please explain to me why Harrison was flagged, and not thrown out of the game, when his actions were absolutely flagrant obviously the offical that threw the flag saw the activity.

So thats #1

Why should he have been ejected? He did not throw a punch. The play was still live. And you do not eject someone because the commentator says so. I know John Madden might know a little football, but I have never seen a player ejected for what took place. There was a lot of pushing going on. If that was an ejection, so should have been Taylor during the play out of bounds.

Originally Posted by fljet

#2 Roughing the passer on Arizona was within the normal tolerance, and there was no flagrant contact. Also roethlisberger appeared to be in the pocket and threw the ball away, intentional grounding was never considered and NBC never showed a replay but the ball landed and no players from either team were within 7 yards of it.

These calls are not made on the basis whether the contact was flagrant or now. I was not totally happy about the call either, but that is how the NFL wants unnecessary hits called on QBs.

And IG is not present when the passer gets outside of the tackle box. All the ball has to do is get pass the LOS (even if that is out of bounds) and no receiver needs to be present.

Originally Posted by fljet

#3 Roughing the placeholder was uneccessary, you could see Wilson pull up and he barely made contact. Im sorry but you dont throw that flag in a superbowl game, maybe in the reg. season, maybe never.

That was about as obvious a call as there was tonight. It is like roughing the kicker, pulling up does not absorb you from the penalty. Sorry, not sure what rulebook you have ever read.

Originally Posted by fljet

#4 Block in the back on Colon on the 2nd Pittsburg drive which enabled Rothelisberger to convert on 3 and 10 to Heath Miller.

I do not remember the play. Hitting someone in the back is not a foul just because it took place. Sorry, not sure what rulebook you have read.

Originally Posted by fljet

#5 Holding on the 100 yard return by #26 I dont think anyone saw it, but he grabbed Warners jersey sleeve and redirected him. Close!!

Maybe if you are working a Junior High game. Not in high school and above where Warner was clearly blocked. Warner was pushed out of the way, the tugging on the jersey did not prevent Warner from making a play. Do you actually officiate?

Originally Posted by fljet

Bottom line I thought the officials had a below all-star performance, and I think this the NFL is rigged for ratings!!

We did not ask for your opinion.

Peace

[aschramm]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Do you actually officiate?




Peace

I think the answer is quite obvious

How about we look at some of the close plays the officials got exactly right, including the catch by Holmes late in the game, and the good non-call for Intentional Grounding because Warner (I think? Maybe it was Roethlisburger) was out of the tackle box?

[fljet]

[QUOTE=JRutledge;574617]Why should he have been ejected? He did not throw a punch. The play was still live. And you do not eject someone because the commentator says so. I know John Madden might know a little football, but I have never seen a player ejected for what took place. There was a lot of pushing going on. If that was an ejection, so should have been Taylor during the play out of bounds.



These calls are not made on the basis whether the contact was flagrant or now. I was not totally happy about the call either, but that is how the NFL wants unnecessary hits called on QBs.

And IG is not present when the passer gets outside of the tackle box. All the ball has to do is get pass the LOS (even if that is out of bounds) and no receiver needs to be present.



That was about as obvious a call as there was tonight. It is like roughing the kicker, pulling up does not absorb you from the penalty. Sorry, not sure what rulebook you have ever read.



I do not remember the play. Hitting someone in the back is not a foul just because it took place. Sorry, not sure what rulebook you have read.



Maybe if you are working a Junior High game. Not in high school and above where Warner was clearly blocked. Warner was pushed out of the way, the tugging on the jersey did not prevent Warner from making a play. Do you actually officiate?



We did not ask for your opinion.

Peace[/QUOTE


well dont comment on what youre not sure about and oh yeah

#6 The Santonio "lebron James" powder toss was probably not using the ball as a prop, which is generally strictly enforced.

Oh and I did not ask your opinion

[jaybird]

Originally Posted by fljet

Here are some of my questionable calls of the game, Im waiting on you guys to defend your boys like usual but oh well I know that game was a joke to most average fans who wanted to see a good game on this national holiday of sorts.

please explain to me why Harrison was flagged, and not thrown out of the game, when his actions were absolutely flagrant obviously the offical that threw the flag saw the activity.

So thats #1

#2 Roughing the passer on Arizona was within the normal tolerance, and there was no flagrant contact. Also roethlisberger appeared to be in the pocket and threw the ball away, intentional grounding was never considered and NBC never showed a replay but the ball landed and no players from either team were within 7 yards of it.

#3 Roughing the placeholder was uneccessary, you could see Wilson pull up and he barely made contact. Im sorry but you dont throw that flag in a superbowl game, maybe in the reg. season, maybe never.

#4 Block in the back on Colon on the 2nd Pittsburg drive which enabled Rothelisberger to convert on 3 and 10 to Heath Miller.

#5 Holding on the 100 yard return by #26 I dont think anyone saw it, but he grabbed Warners jersey sleeve and redirected him. Close!!

Bottom line I thought the officials had a below all-star performance, and I think this the NFL is rigged for ratings!!

I will not respond further as JRut did a fine job of addressing and answering each of these.

Now give it up and go away, troll boy.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by jaybird

I will not respond further as JRut did a fine job of addressing and answering each of these.

Ditto to that. Hey Rut, when are you eligible to work another state final?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Welpe

Ditto to that. Hey Rut, when are you eligible to work another state final?

LOL!!!

Peace

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by fljet

whatever Im not a Cardinals or Steelers fan and I did not enjoy the game tonight ... due to the lopsided officiating

I know I am probably tilting at windmills here but I have to ask. Did it occur to you that Arizona had more fouls called on them because they committed more fouls? Before you mention it, I do not have a rooting interest in either team.

Originally Posted by 3mnkys

one other comment though, on the Harrison personal foul penalty, he did punch the player at least once before they seperated and then he proceeded to flagrantly push the Cardinal player down. Whether that warrants an ejection is open for debate, but there was at least one punch thrown that was captured by NBC cameras and shown in the extended replay.

In high school, I can definitely see the blow being considered flagarant and the player disqualified. The push after that did not rise to the level of being flagarant, which by rule, requires an ejection.

[3mnkys]

Originally Posted by Welpe

I know I am probably tilting at windmills here but I have to ask. Did it occur to you that Arizona had more fouls called on them because they committed more fouls? Before you mention it, I do not have a rooting interest in either team.



In high school, I can definitely see the blow being considered flagarant and the player disqualified. The push after that did not rise to the level of being flagarant, which by rule, requires an ejection.

thanks, I mis-typed, the push was not flagrant, the punch sure seemed to be, as it was done from a superior position to a player on the ground in a position where he looked like he was not defending himself...anyway, thanks for a response...I just joined tonight, am an umpire and HS admin...so football is not something I would comment on, just ask questions on...

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by 3mnkys

thanks, I mis-typed, the push was not flagrant, the punch sure seemed to be, as it was done from a superior position to a player on the ground in a position where he looked like he was not defending himself...anyway, thanks for a response...I just joined tonight, am an umpire and HS admin...so football is not something I would comment on, just ask questions on...

I believe the specific penalty was called unnecessary roughness. I saw nothing that was deemed as flagrant.

Peace

[jimpiano]

Originally Posted by fljet

Here are some of my questionable calls of the game, I and I think this the NFL is rigged for ratings!!

The football guys stuffed your rules' arguments.

Here is the list of the top 26 TV markets in the country.


New York City, New York
Los Angeles, California
Chicago, Illinois
San Francisco, California
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Dallas/Fort Worth, Texas
Washington, District of Columbia
Boston, Massachusetts
Miami, Florida
Detroit, Michigan
Houston, Texas
Phoenix, Arizona
Seattle, Washington
Minneapolis, Minnesota
Cleveland, Ohio
Sacramento, California
San Diego, California
Denver, Colorado
Tampa, Florida
St. Louis, Missouri
Atlanta, Georgia
Baltimore, Maryland
Orlando, Florida
Indianapolis, Indiana
Portland, Oregon
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania

If the Super Bowl was "rigged for ratings" the NFL could have done a lot better than Phoenix and Pittsburgh.

[waltjp]

Originally Posted by fljet

#3 Roughing the placeholder was uneccessary, you could see Wilson pull up and he barely made contact. Im sorry but you dont throw that flag in a superbowl game, maybe in the reg. season, maybe never.

This is about as dumb of a comment as you can make. Consistency is what everyone wants and deserves. A foul in the first game is still a foul in the last game.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by waltjp

This is about as dumb of a comment as you can make. Consistency is what everyone wants and deserves. A foul in the first game is still a foul in the last game.

Exaclty. Mike Pereira has even said as much. He wants Week 1 and teh SB to be indistinguishable when it comes to the officiating. Otherwise, he said, how do the players know what is and what is not a foul?