Questionable Calls Superbowl 43

[3mnkys]

I have a question about the rule on a player landing inbounds after a legal catch...of course I am referring to Holmes catch at the end of the game. I have seen several still photo angles, and from the front, it looks like both feet hit the ground, while from the rear, it looks like the trail foot never hit the ground, and actually landed on the foot that was indeed on the ground. I am simply wanting to know what the definitive NFL rule for the play is...do both feet need to touch the ground, or is one on top of the other good enough. Not trying to start a controversy, because like many big plays, I think the only one who will truly ever know is Holmes himself...Thank you in advance for any replies

[waltjp]

Originally Posted by 3mnkys

I have a question about the rule on a player landing inbounds after a legal catch...of course I am referring to Holmes catch at the end of the game. I have seen several still photo angles, and from the front, it looks like both feet hit the ground, while from the rear, it looks like the trail foot never hit the ground, and actually landed on the foot that was indeed on the ground. I am simply wanting to know what the definitive NFL rule for the play is...do both feet need to touch the ground, or is one on top of the other good enough. Not trying to start a controversy, because like many big plays, I think the only one who will truly ever know is Holmes himself...Thank you in advance for any replies

Both feet have to touch the ground. I didn't think there was any doubt that this was a TD. The field judge was the first to go up with the hands and he had the best view of the play. He was right on the sideline looking at Homles' feet.

[3mnkys]

Originally Posted by waltjp

Both feet have to touch the ground. I didn't think there was any doubt that this was a TD. The field judge was the first to go up with the hands and he had the best view of the play. He was right on the sideline looking at Homles' feet.

thanks, I am a Cardinal AND Steeler fan (born in Pitt, raised in AZ)...so I wanted to simply see a good game, and it certainly was...you'll see the photos probably over the next few days, but I also think he clearly had both feet on the ground and was in control of the ball...

one other comment though, on the Harrison personal foul penalty, he did punch the player at least once before they seperated and then he proceeded to flagrantly push the Cardinal player down. Whether that warrants an ejection is open for debate, but there was at least one punch thrown that was captured by NBC cameras and shown in the extended replay.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by fljet

Bottom line I thought the officials had a below all-star performance, and I think this the NFL is rigged for ratings!!

Try thinking your logic through for a second, Art Bell. Think the NFL would be able to rig this without even one disgruntled referee coming forward with proof? Not possible, a conspiracy of this level would require too many participants to stay hidden.

[daggo66]

Originally Posted by fljet

Also roethlisberger appeared to be in the pocket and threw the ball away, intentional grounding was never considered and NBC never showed a replay but the ball landed and no players from either team were within 7 yards of it.

Did you not see the TV replay with the 2 red lines draw back from the 2 tackles and Ben being clearly outside of the box?

[zm1283]

I didn't even see the Holmes "Lebron" impersonation when it happened. How in the hell did they not nail him for 15? That is ALWAYS a penalty and they blew it. The whole "It was late and they had quit looking at him" is a lame excuse.

Not reviewing the final play when Warner's arm was going forward was a complete joke. I thought they've always said that the booth just decides if they play is worthy of review and the Referee actually looks at it and reviews it.

You guys can kiss rear end all you want, but the Cardinals got hosed just like the Seahawks.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by zm1283

You guys can kiss rear end all you want, but the Cardinals got hosed just like the Seahawks.

Are you going to bother answering any of our questions regarding your conduct or? Perhaps you should hang up your basketball stripes, I'm not sure you have the ability to view things objectively.

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by Welpe

Are you going to bother answering any of our questions regarding your conduct or? Perhaps you should hang up your basketball stripes, I'm not sure you have the ability to view things objectively.

Yeah, you're right. I'm not able to referee basketball because of the NFL. How silly of me.

My conduct? I'm not the one who got overwhelmed in the Super Bowl last night.

[Welpe]

Never mind. Go away troll.

[kdf5]

Originally Posted by zm1283

...Not reviewing the final play when Warner's arm was going forward was a complete joke.

You guys can kiss rear end all you want, but the Cardinals got hosed just like the Seahawks.

Warner's arm did move forward, WITHOUT THE BALL!!! If you're such a hotshot official you of all people would know that. My guess is that you're some flunky college kid who's just sobering up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRHvm52T_WE

[Adam]

Originally Posted by kdf5

Warner's arm did move forward, WITHOUT THE BALL!!! If you're such a hotshot official you of all people would know that. My guess is that you're some flunky college kid who's just sobering up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRHvm52T_WE

Agreed about the arm. As much as I hated to admit it, it was a fumble. He waited too long to get rid of it. I was hoping it would be ruled incomplete, time put back on, and they'd get the 15 yards for the USC penalty for a better shot at the endzone. I really wanted Phoenix to win.

Helluva game, though.

[JRutledge]

That interpretation is called "Empty hands." Anyone that has done a college game or above should know that ruling. Then again, we are all not like zm1283.

Peace

[fljet]

Originally Posted by zm1283

I didn't even see the Holmes "Lebron" impersonation when it happened. How in the hell did they not nail him for 15? That is ALWAYS a penalty and they blew it. The whole "It was late and they had quit looking at him" is a lame excuse.

Not reviewing the final play when Warner's arm was going forward was a complete joke. I thought they've always said that the booth just decides if they play is worthy of review and the Referee actually looks at it and reviews it.

You guys can kiss rear end all you want, but the Cardinals got hosed just like the Seahawks.

they also missed the group celebration according to one of the Sirius nfl shows

the roughing the passer play was defintiely IG, they showed a replay on Nfl network that confirmed.

Even the ESPN crew was complaining about calling a roughing the holder,

Hey since Peirerra is retiring Im sure the NFL could get this bulletin board to be its new CYA VP of officiating!!!