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Old Sun Feb 01, 2009, 11:19pm
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Here are some of my questionable calls of the game, Im waiting on you guys to defend your boys like usual but oh well I know that game was a joke to most average fans who wanted to see a good game on this national holiday of sorts.

please explain to me why Harrison was flagged, and not thrown out of the game, when his actions were absolutely flagrant obviously the offical that threw the flag saw the activity.

So thats #1

#2 Roughing the passer on Arizona was within the normal tolerance, and there was no flagrant contact. Also roethlisberger appeared to be in the pocket and threw the ball away, intentional grounding was never considered and NBC never showed a replay but the ball landed and no players from either team were within 7 yards of it.

#3 Roughing the placeholder was uneccessary, you could see Wilson pull up and he barely made contact. Im sorry but you dont throw that flag in a superbowl game, maybe in the reg. season, maybe never.

#4 Block in the back on Colon on the 2nd Pittsburg drive which enabled Rothelisberger to convert on 3 and 10 to Heath Miller.

#5 Holding on the 100 yard return by #26 I dont think anyone saw it, but he grabbed Warners jersey sleeve and redirected him. Close!!

Bottom line I thought the officials had a below all-star performance, and I think this the NFL is rigged for ratings!!
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Old Sun Feb 01, 2009, 11:22pm
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#3 Roughing the placeholder was uneccessary, you could see Wilson pull up and he barely made contact. Im sorry but you dont throw that flag in a superbowl game, maybe in the reg. season, maybe never.
The holder was flattened. You're a moron.
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Old Sun Feb 01, 2009, 11:24pm
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Yawn...time for the trolls to move off to the basketball forum now that March is approaching.
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Old Sun Feb 01, 2009, 11:31pm
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The holder was flattened. You're a moron.
you could see Wilson pull up, his stumbling momentum took him into the holder, if it was flagrant he would have "layed the wood"

In 23 years of watching multiple NFL games per week, I have never seen that call
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Old Sun Feb 01, 2009, 11:34pm
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Here are some of my questionable calls of the game, Im waiting on you guys to defend your boys like usual but oh well I know that game was a joke to most average fans who wanted to see a good game on this national holiday of sorts.

please explain to me why Harrison was flagged, and not thrown out of the game, when his actions were absolutely flagrant obviously the offical that threw the flag saw the activity.

So thats #1
Why should he have been ejected? He did not throw a punch. The play was still live. And you do not eject someone because the commentator says so. I know John Madden might know a little football, but I have never seen a player ejected for what took place. There was a lot of pushing going on. If that was an ejection, so should have been Taylor during the play out of bounds.

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#2 Roughing the passer on Arizona was within the normal tolerance, and there was no flagrant contact. Also roethlisberger appeared to be in the pocket and threw the ball away, intentional grounding was never considered and NBC never showed a replay but the ball landed and no players from either team were within 7 yards of it.
These calls are not made on the basis whether the contact was flagrant or now. I was not totally happy about the call either, but that is how the NFL wants unnecessary hits called on QBs.

And IG is not present when the passer gets outside of the tackle box. All the ball has to do is get pass the LOS (even if that is out of bounds) and no receiver needs to be present.

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#3 Roughing the placeholder was uneccessary, you could see Wilson pull up and he barely made contact. Im sorry but you dont throw that flag in a superbowl game, maybe in the reg. season, maybe never.
That was about as obvious a call as there was tonight. It is like roughing the kicker, pulling up does not absorb you from the penalty. Sorry, not sure what rulebook you have ever read.

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#4 Block in the back on Colon on the 2nd Pittsburg drive which enabled Rothelisberger to convert on 3 and 10 to Heath Miller.
I do not remember the play. Hitting someone in the back is not a foul just because it took place. Sorry, not sure what rulebook you have read.

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#5 Holding on the 100 yard return by #26 I dont think anyone saw it, but he grabbed Warners jersey sleeve and redirected him. Close!!
Maybe if you are working a Junior High game. Not in high school and above where Warner was clearly blocked. Warner was pushed out of the way, the tugging on the jersey did not prevent Warner from making a play. Do you actually officiate?

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Bottom line I thought the officials had a below all-star performance, and I think this the NFL is rigged for ratings!!
We did not ask for your opinion.

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Old Sun Feb 01, 2009, 11:40pm
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you could see Wilson pull up, his stumbling momentum took him into the holder, if it was flagrant he would have "layed the wood"

In 23 years of watching multiple NFL games per week, I have never seen that call
That's cause NFL players don't hit the holder. Pulling up has nothing to do with it. The holder is completely vulnerable.
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Old Sun Feb 01, 2009, 11:46pm
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I think the answer is quite obvious

How about we look at some of the close plays the officials got exactly right, including the catch by Holmes late in the game, and the good non-call for Intentional Grounding because Warner (I think? Maybe it was Roethlisburger) was out of the tackle box?
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holmes powder toss

Ok explain the Lebron James impersonation, using the ball as a prop = 15 yards
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Old Sun Feb 01, 2009, 11:53pm
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Ok explain the Lebron James impersonation, using the ball as a prop = 15 yards
I have no idea why this wasn't called. I mentioned it to my wife when it happened, saying "he's going to get flagged for this" and he didn't. You have a, IMO, valid point there.
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[QUOTE=JRutledge;574617]Why should he have been ejected? He did not throw a punch. The play was still live. And you do not eject someone because the commentator says so. I know John Madden might know a little football, but I have never seen a player ejected for what took place. There was a lot of pushing going on. If that was an ejection, so should have been Taylor during the play out of bounds.



These calls are not made on the basis whether the contact was flagrant or now. I was not totally happy about the call either, but that is how the NFL wants unnecessary hits called on QBs.

And IG is not present when the passer gets outside of the tackle box. All the ball has to do is get pass the LOS (even if that is out of bounds) and no receiver needs to be present.



That was about as obvious a call as there was tonight. It is like roughing the kicker, pulling up does not absorb you from the penalty. Sorry, not sure what rulebook you have ever read.



I do not remember the play. Hitting someone in the back is not a foul just because it took place. Sorry, not sure what rulebook you have read.



Maybe if you are working a Junior High game. Not in high school and above where Warner was clearly blocked. Warner was pushed out of the way, the tugging on the jersey did not prevent Warner from making a play. Do you actually officiate?



We did not ask for your opinion.

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well dont comment on what youre not sure about and oh yeah

#6 The Santonio "lebron James" powder toss was probably not using the ball as a prop, which is generally strictly enforced.

Oh and I did not ask your opinion
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you could see Wilson pull up, his stumbling momentum took him into the holder, if it was flagrant he would have "layed the wood"

In 23 years of watching multiple NFL games per week, I have never seen that call
You do not see it happen because players are usually smart enough to not run into a holder.

You do not have to hit someone in a flagrant way to have a penalty. Try again.

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Old Sun Feb 01, 2009, 11:59pm
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The worse no-call on the 100 yard return was the blatant block in the back at about the 10 or 15 yard line.
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Old Mon Feb 02, 2009, 12:03am
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The worse no-call on the 100 yard return was the blatant block in the back at about the 10 or 15 yard line.
Oh yeah there was multiple issues with that play, I forgot to mention that, thanks

Im sure JRutledge will pick you apart as well, he comments on everything like he is some sort of god.
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Old Mon Feb 02, 2009, 12:05am
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Here are some of my questionable calls of the game, Im waiting on you guys to defend your boys like usual but oh well I know that game was a joke to most average fans who wanted to see a good game on this national holiday of sorts.

please explain to me why Harrison was flagged, and not thrown out of the game, when his actions were absolutely flagrant obviously the offical that threw the flag saw the activity.

So thats #1

#2 Roughing the passer on Arizona was within the normal tolerance, and there was no flagrant contact. Also roethlisberger appeared to be in the pocket and threw the ball away, intentional grounding was never considered and NBC never showed a replay but the ball landed and no players from either team were within 7 yards of it.

#3 Roughing the placeholder was uneccessary, you could see Wilson pull up and he barely made contact. Im sorry but you dont throw that flag in a superbowl game, maybe in the reg. season, maybe never.

#4 Block in the back on Colon on the 2nd Pittsburg drive which enabled Rothelisberger to convert on 3 and 10 to Heath Miller.

#5 Holding on the 100 yard return by #26 I dont think anyone saw it, but he grabbed Warners jersey sleeve and redirected him. Close!!

Bottom line I thought the officials had a below all-star performance, and I think this the NFL is rigged for ratings!!

I will not respond further as JRut did a fine job of addressing and answering each of these.

Now give it up and go away, troll boy.
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Old Mon Feb 02, 2009, 12:07am
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I watched the whole game. The run was replayed at least three times and I did not see an illegal block. I don't know how blatant something is if only two people here are making noise about it.

If you were looking for rules explanations of sports you don't officiate, you could do much worse than JRutledge.
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