Kasay: Can a Kicker Re-set?

[PackersFTW]

Originally Posted by bossman72

No. This commonly happens when the kicker expects the ball to be snapped and the snapper doesn't snap the ball right away... So the kicker "stutter steps" forward (like Kasay did) in anticipation of the late snap. It's actually a DISadvantage


But yes, I've seen this happen a couple times in my lifetime where the kicker "stutters" before he starts. I always wondered if this was illegal/forward motion or a false start... but it was never called.

i was gonna say this. when kasay did this, i thought for sure he was going to miss.

Originally Posted by OverAndBack

You haven't.

You may have seen two or more guys shift before. But you haven't seen two guys in motion at the snap without a penalty unless somebody really messed up.

correct. i saw them both move a few seconds before the snap, but one of them set before the snap.

[PSU213]

Originally Posted by PackersFTW

correct. i saw them both move a few seconds before the snap, but one of them set before the snap.

They both should have reset and then one of them (or another back/end) could have gone in motion after a second--although in the NFL they seem to take liberty with the "one second." I'm not sure exactly how it is written in NFL rules, but it seems guys are often sent for less than a second before a snap, and it is deemed legal.

[ajmc]

To suggest that the kicker "set to a new position" when he stutter-stepped during his kicking motion is just nonsense, and looking for trouble that doesn't exist. More than likely the stutter happened AFTER the snap had begun, (or too close to it for the human eye to discern) and the kicker, and everyone else on offense is free to move as they choose (defense as well).

Clearly, he did not gain any, "unfair advantage".

[PackersFTW]

Originally Posted by PSU213

They both should have reset and then one of them (or another back/end) could have gone in motion after a second--although in the NFL they seem to take liberty with the "one second." I'm not sure exactly how it is written in NFL rules, but it seems guys are often sent for less than a second before a snap, and it is deemed legal.

agreed.

[PackersFTW]

no, it was about a full second before the snap, but if you think about it, it only puts him at a disadvantage. it's not like the defense will see him move and jump offsides like they would a lineman. the last thing you said is key.

[OverAndBack]

Originally Posted by PackersFTW

correct. i saw them both move a few seconds before the snap, but one of them set before the snap.

Then that's a shift, not motion.