A-11 Offense ??

[JPC75]

More rules = More refs = More control...

I can believe that most refs on this site are conscious and try not to over officiate and ruin the game, and that is probably why they are on this site. The problem, however, are the majority of football refs do not visit this site and do not care to be educated and love to throw "Hankies".

Ruins the game.

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WaltJP

On the rugby note, I do realize that I miss 90% of the rugby game I officiate (although this seems a little over exaggerated) after you clarified that fouls that occur behind my back are missed.

You are also right that I am aware of behind my back justice. This is all part of the sport and it is a judgment call for the ref. I might notice a black eye or broken nose on one player complaining to me that he was roughed off the ball by another player and when his opposing number turns up with a black eye or broken nose, I am not usually left wondering where it came from. However, I will call it if I see it. This is part of the game.

And I was not being arrogant by saying that the rugby ref’s word is last. It is just known and respected within the sport.

Jimmy

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by JPC75

More rules = More refs = More control...

I can believe that most refs on this site are conscious and try not to over officiate and ruin the game, and that is probably why they are on this site. The problem, however, are the majority of football refs do not visit this site and do not care to be educated and love to throw "Hankies".

Ruins the game.

I don't think that you have accounted for some things.

Transfer of knowledge. An official doesn't have to visit a site like this one to not be a heavy hanky-thrower. There are many posters here, but there are even more lurkers. If they read the posts here and take some of the info back to the local groups, I hope that valuable information is passed onto other officials.

Contributors like Bob M., TX Mike, grant, Goodman, JRut, Welpe, Mr. Hickland, I could go on and on, provide valuable 411 for everyone within a degree or two, or three.

[daggo66]

Can't you guys give this threadjack it's own thread? I cringe whenever I see this title near the top.

[Fadamor]

As a VHSL head linesman, what amazed me is how much of the YouTube video of the A11 offense contained illegal activity that should have been flagged. The first clip had the "deep" back only 6 yards from the line of scrimmage (illegal formation) and the next play shown had an illegal shift due to the final motion man not waiting 1 second after the previous shift to start his motion.

The A11 formation may be legal, but it apparently spawns a plethora of OTHER illegal activity - all in the name of "confusing the defense" (and apparently the officials, too, as none of the things I noted were flagged). Keep the offense within the other rules and the defenses facing them might have less difficulty adjusting.

[TXMike]

Someone sent me a DVD of the offense and there were an incredible amount of flags for illegal formations and shifts (and this from a team that "invented" the offense.)

[Fadamor]

Originally Posted by TXMike

Someone sent me a DVD of the offense and there were an incredible amount of flags for illegal formations and shifts (and this from a team that "invented" the offense.)

Yeah, I figured as much. If there were that many un-flagged infractions that were in their promotional video, I'm sure there were many more downs that did catch flags (and therefore weren't suitable for their video).

[STEVED21]

Originally Posted by Fadamor

Yeah, I figured as much. If there were that many un-flagged infractions that were in their promotional video, I'm sure there were many more downs that did catch flags (and therefore weren't suitable for their video).

Just watched the video. Looks like an illegal formation on every other play. Also, it seems easy to key the type of play off the inside WR. If he goes down field( as in ineligible) it's a screen. If he doesn't ( and drops back to block) it's a long pass. If I can see this in 10 minutes, imagine what a good coach can do.