offense penalized

[d1ref2b]

Came a cross an interesting sitution during a rules discussion with a fellow HS official. I was applying NCAA rules and he pointed out that NFHS is different in this case. The question is, When and how is the offensive team penalized when the defensive team commits a violation?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by d1ref2b

Came a cross an interesting sitution during a rules discussion with a fellow HS official. I was applying NCAA rules and he pointed out that NFHS is different in this case. The question is, When and how is the offensive team penalized when the defensive team commits a violation?

I hope we are not about to have a long discussion about throw-ins and OOB violations.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by d1ref2b

The question is, When and how is the offensive team penalized when the defensive team commits a violation?

The question is, what violation are you talking about?

[d1ref2b]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I hope we are not about to have a long discussion about throw-ins and OOB violations.

Badnews, you do not have to participate, but it does not involved an OOB violation. I can not think of any OOB violation that the defense can commit. They can reach throught the plane, but that doesn't penalize the offense.

What fun would it be if I told you the violation. Give it some more thought. You guys are way smarter than me, and I was able to come up with it.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by d1ref2b

I can not think of any OOB violation that the defense can commit.

I can. The defense can't go OOB for an unauthorized reason. Violation.

[Adam]

Leaving the court for an unauthorized reason? Spot throwin nearest the violation could be in the offensive backcourt.

[d1ref2b]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Leaving the court for an unauthorized reason? Spot throwin nearest the violation could be in the offensive backcourt.

Wouldn't that be a T and play would resume at POI? Offense not penalized. They get 2 shots and the ball back.

[WhistlesAndStripes]

A boundary plane infraction, which results in a warning, is a violation. I don't have my books with me, but I believe it is called this specifically in the rulebook.

[d1ref2b]

Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes

A boundary plane infraction, which results in a warning, is a violation. I don't have my books with me, but I believe it is called this specifically in the rulebook.

I believe you are correct, but is the offense penalized by this defense violation. First is a warning and second is a T.

[deecee]

ths should get good I got my popcorn out and ready to roll...

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by d1ref2b

Wouldn't that be a T and play would resume at POI? Offense not penalized. They get 2 shots and the ball back.

Not under NFHS rules.

[deecee]

WTF -- how is the offense penalized? they retain the ball -- usually when this is called its because the defender might have physically stepped over the line -- because if there is any contact its a T automatically.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by d1ref2b

I believe you are correct, but is the offense penalized by this defense violation. First is a warning and second is a T.

How is the offense penalized by the defense receiving a warning?

[d1ref2b]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

How is the offense penalized by the defense receiving a warning?

The offense isn't penalized. However, this is not the play in question. Come on guys. You are all way to smart. I will give you a few more tries. I think it is relevant enough to warrant a rules change and have addressed it with Mary Struckhoff and our State Association.

[d1ref2b]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

See case book play 9.3.2SitD. That will tell you how the offense could be penalized.

Do not have my case book with me. COuld you provide a few detail? Remeber, the defense commits a violation and the OFFENSE is penalized for that.