Flag or no flag?

[simpson]

Originally Posted by mcrowder

As to your other situations, since nothing had been signaled, I surely would have told BJ that he missed a late PF that the rest of the stadium (including you) saw - and let him act as if his flag was for both. If he didn't like that, then sure, you could drop your flag too, but I think it looks better for him to have inadvertently only thrown 1 flag for the 2 fouls (as far as everyone else's perception goes) than for you to have to drop the flag.

I agree with trying to talk the BJ into having both fouls. As for the USC, it wasn't the TE who scored. It was a receiver running free for a TD who cut across the field and slowed down at the 5 yard line. I wasn't there, but the way that sounds, it could very easily be taunting.

[mcrowder]

Originally Posted by simpson

I agree with trying to talk the BJ into having both fouls. As for the USC, it wasn't the TE who scored. It was a receiver running free for a TD who cut across the field and slowed down at the 5 yard line. I wasn't there, but the way that sounds, it could very easily be taunting.

TE, WR, whatever - he's still a kid at the end of a 70 yard run. Not completely out of the question that he was merely slowing. I would have to see some other evidence of taunting than merely slowing and then realizing you might get caught and speeding back up. Kind of a flimsy taunt, don't you think?

[simpson]

Originally Posted by mcrowder

TE, WR, whatever - he's still a kid at the end of a 70 yard run. Not completely out of the question that he was merely slowing. I would have to see some other evidence of taunting than merely slowing and then realizing you might get caught and speeding back up. Kind of a flimsy taunt, don't you think?

I guess it's a "you had to be there type of thing." I'm just trying to run the image through my mind. If you have a guy slow down/jog and run toward the middle of the field/maybe even come close to stopping/looking back at the defender only to burst full speed into the end zone when he gets close, I probably have a USC.

If the kid is winded and clearly just losing steam - I got nothing. The reason I think the kid did more than just slow down because he was tired is because he a)cut across the middle of the field as he slowed down, and b) had enough energy to burst through the endzone when the defender got close. Obviously, it's a judgement call that we can't make from a typed 2nd-hand description.

[jontheref]

This whole situation can be avoided if the official is not so geared to report the foul and continue officiating the entire play. Thats why we see so many NFL officials and College officials turning their backs on the field and following the players. If this was done you may have an entirely different situation.

The other thing is this...in this particular situation dont you have a live ball foul treated as a deadball. Score the touchdown and administer the USC on the try? And, if you have the take down after the touchdown...after going back to the 18 ... you now go half the distance.

As far as do you throw the flag from 40 yards away...I tell my guys if you see it...and it is critical....throw it.