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Old Mon Sep 18, 2006, 08:07pm
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University of Oklahoma president David Boren sent a letter Monday to Big 12 commissioner Kevin Weiberg, saying the officiating problems was beyond an "outrageous injustice," and asking him to pursue having the game eliminated from the record books and having the officials involved in the game suspended for the remainder of the season.
Good God, Boren, it's a fricking football game. Mistakes were made. It happens. Get over it.

Has your admissions office ever let kids into OU who flunked out? Ever suspended them for doing so?
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Old Mon Sep 18, 2006, 08:44pm
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This is terrible.
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Old Mon Sep 18, 2006, 09:50pm
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I don't have a problem with the suspensions, but I do with if they are going to do that, conferences should be more proactive in having press conferences announcing in the other 99.9% of cases when they are correct.

Boren's an idiot. Always has been; always will be.
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Old Mon Sep 18, 2006, 09:58pm
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I don't have a problem with the suspensions, but I do with if they are going to do that, conferences should be more proactive in having press conferences announcing in the other 99.9% of cases when they are correct.
I completely agree with this statement.

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Old Tue Sep 19, 2006, 04:26am
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Oklahoma Sooner fans are like Dallas Maverick fans. When they win....they WON the game. When they lose....they were obviously CHEATED !!!
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Old Tue Sep 19, 2006, 08:58am
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Oklahoma Sooner fans are like Dallas Maverick fans. When they win....they WON the game. When they lose....they were obviously CHEATED !!!
LOL.....you musta been reading the Basketball forum last June.

That includes Dallas fanboys who are also umpires/officials too.
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Old Tue Sep 19, 2006, 10:34pm
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LOL.....you musta been reading the Basketball forum last June.

That includes Dallas fanboys who are also umpires/officials too.

I was part of that basketball forum last June ! I'm only a fanboy when it comes to MY SPURS ! Spurs should have went 82-0 last year if we could get some decent calls ! As bad as some Spurs fans are......Mav fans took it over the top! Talk about whiners !!!!! Karma is a ***** ! Sorry to go off topic....now back to the football forum......
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Old Tue Sep 19, 2006, 12:08pm
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I completely agree with this statement.

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Old Tue Sep 19, 2006, 12:14pm
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What does the article mean when it says the recovery by OU was not reviewable? Specifically, why not? Seems rather clear on replay to me.

And No, I'm not a fanboy - I'm a Longhorn. I wanted them to lose, but not this way.

I do think it sucks that the on-field crew is being suspended for a week. I don't believe they deserved it (we all make mistakes - no game is officiated perfectly), and I don't believe it serves any true purpose in motivating them not to make mistakes in the future (which, supposedly, would the intent of punishment such as this) - I'm sure they are already motivated to not make mistakes.

However, I think it's a crime that the replay official has not been suspended for at least the season. This is CLEARLY an egregious error and it was his sole responsibility to fix it. He had the same angles the rest of us did, and it was a rather obvious mistake. This man should not work again. I don't want to say the mistake was intentional or biased, but I can't help but wonder if the policy of using local ex-officials as replay officials, instead of ponying up the bucks to have a replay official as part of a crew, is partly to blame here.
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Old Tue Sep 19, 2006, 01:32pm
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I haven't seen any replays of a camera that was position on the 45 yard line. All the camera views I seen were from an angle. If you've been officiating long enough, you know that making calls depends on the perfect view. The ball APPEARED to be less than 10 yards when it was touched, but we can't use what it APPEARED to be because the angle the camera was at is what gave it that appearance. We must have absolute facts. As far as the recovery of the ball, someone mentioned there was a replay that showed Oregon #15 falling on the ball while he was down. The recovery of the ball by OU #23 was after the ball became dead. In my opinion the replay official should have said there wasn't sufficient effidence to overturn the call. But because they said the ball had touched OU first is what set these wheels turning.
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Old Tue Sep 19, 2006, 03:47pm
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I don't have a problem with the suspensions, but I do with if they are going to do that, conferences should be more proactive in having press conferences announcing in the other 99.9% of cases when they are correct.

Boren's an idiot. Always has been; always will be.


The only problem I have is this?

Why suspend the officiating crew? They did their job. They made the calls (even though incorrect), however, both calls were reviewed by the Instant replay Crew where the calls on the field could have been reversed and there would not have been any suspensions.

Therefore, I agree with suspending the Instant replay officials but why the on Field officials.

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Old Tue Sep 19, 2006, 07:11am
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This is terrible.

At the Div 1 and Pro level officials get paid a lot more money and with the big paycheck comes more accountability.
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Old Tue Sep 19, 2006, 07:21am
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It's unfortunate that it happened however, the crew should be held accountable for the errors. We all make mistakes and even at the HS level I am held accountable if something goes wrong. I don't agree with the OU having a big to do press conference about it, but the suspension for 1 game does not seem outrageous IMO.
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Old Tue Sep 19, 2006, 07:28am
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It's unfortunate that it happened however, the crew should be held accountable for the errors. We all make mistakes and even at the HS level I am held accountable if something goes wrong. I don't agree with the OU having a big to do press conference about it, but the suspension for 1 game does not seem outrageous IMO.
You are totally right on the BIG 12 press conference crap, saying the game shouldn't even count and it should be taken off the record book is a joke. After all this I hope all goes well this season at all the Big 12 football games, no pressure being put on their officials to be perfect!
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Old Tue Sep 19, 2006, 07:43am
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Most of you know by now that i am an OU fan. I to agree that Borens letter is over the top as far as the game not counting. Think that is just a political stance to show that he is standing up for his school. Deep down he knows nothing will happen.

As far as the comment when OU wins they WON the game and when the lose they got cheated; show me one fan base who does not have that attitude among their followers. Most fans can be realist but every fan base has their share.

As far as the replay system itself in NCAA that as an official i would hate is the fact the Ref on the field is totally out of the review process. Unlike the NFL where they have a monitor on the sideline, he has put his fate in a guy upstairs. The crew is at the mercy of the upstairs review guy. In this case if the head ref sees maybe he does overturn it and this controversey is all avoided, but instead you have some guy up there playing god. As an official if i or my crew made the call let me review so i can live with my decision and solely my decision.
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