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CruiseMan Mon Sep 18, 2006 06:14pm

Pac-10 officials vs. OK suspended one game
 
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060918/...ahoma_replay_3

OverAndBack Mon Sep 18, 2006 08:07pm

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University of Oklahoma president David Boren sent a letter Monday to Big 12 commissioner Kevin Weiberg, saying the officiating problems was beyond an "outrageous injustice," and asking him to pursue having the game eliminated from the record books and having the officials involved in the game suspended for the remainder of the season.

Good God, Boren, it's a fricking football game. Mistakes were made. It happens. Get over it.

Has your admissions office ever let kids into OU who flunked out? Ever suspended them for doing so?

bossman72 Mon Sep 18, 2006 08:44pm

This is terrible.

Texas Aggie Mon Sep 18, 2006 09:50pm

I don't have a problem with the suspensions, but I do with if they are going to do that, conferences should be more proactive in having press conferences announcing in the other 99.9% of cases when they are correct.

Boren's an idiot. Always has been; always will be.

JRutledge Mon Sep 18, 2006 09:58pm

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Originally Posted by Texas Aggie
I don't have a problem with the suspensions, but I do with if they are going to do that, conferences should be more proactive in having press conferences announcing in the other 99.9% of cases when they are correct.

I completely agree with this statement.

Peace

dave30 Tue Sep 19, 2006 04:26am

Oklahoma Sooner fans are like Dallas Maverick fans. When they win....they WON the game. When they lose....they were obviously CHEATED !!! :D

RonRef Tue Sep 19, 2006 07:11am

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Originally Posted by bossman72
This is terrible.


At the Div 1 and Pro level officials get paid a lot more money and with the big paycheck comes more accountability.

FootballRef05 Tue Sep 19, 2006 07:21am

It's unfortunate that it happened however, the crew should be held accountable for the errors. We all make mistakes and even at the HS level I am held accountable if something goes wrong. I don't agree with the OU having a big to do press conference about it, but the suspension for 1 game does not seem outrageous IMO.

RonRef Tue Sep 19, 2006 07:28am

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Originally Posted by FootballRef05
It's unfortunate that it happened however, the crew should be held accountable for the errors. We all make mistakes and even at the HS level I am held accountable if something goes wrong. I don't agree with the OU having a big to do press conference about it, but the suspension for 1 game does not seem outrageous IMO.

You are totally right on the BIG 12 press conference crap, saying the game shouldn't even count and it should be taken off the record book is a joke. After all this I hope all goes well this season at all the Big 12 football games, no pressure being put on their officials to be perfect!

BoBo Tue Sep 19, 2006 07:43am

Most of you know by now that i am an OU fan. I to agree that Borens letter is over the top as far as the game not counting. Think that is just a political stance to show that he is standing up for his school. Deep down he knows nothing will happen.

As far as the comment when OU wins they WON the game and when the lose they got cheated; show me one fan base who does not have that attitude among their followers. Most fans can be realist but every fan base has their share.

As far as the replay system itself in NCAA that as an official i would hate is the fact the Ref on the field is totally out of the review process. Unlike the NFL where they have a monitor on the sideline, he has put his fate in a guy upstairs. The crew is at the mercy of the upstairs review guy. In this case if the head ref sees maybe he does overturn it and this controversey is all avoided, but instead you have some guy up there playing god. As an official if i or my crew made the call let me review so i can live with my decision and solely my decision.

sj Tue Sep 19, 2006 08:07am

Even though he knows it won't happen it was an embaressment for Boren to even ask for the game to not count. But Stoops seems to be handling it pretty well. However I have heard the Oregon coach quoted and so far it's the typical, ....we played good enough to win....my boys fought hard.....things happen in games...crap. He may have said other things too but that's all I've heard. It's just more proof that if their team wins coaches could care less if it was done right.

Does anybody know if the replay official saw the view from the end zone on the tipped ball/pass nterference play?

Jurassic Referee Tue Sep 19, 2006 08:58am

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Originally Posted by dave30
Oklahoma Sooner fans are like Dallas Maverick fans. When they win....they WON the game. When they lose....they were obviously CHEATED !!! :D

LOL.....you musta been reading the Basketball forum last June.:D

That includes Dallas fanboys who are also umpires/officials too.

RonRef Tue Sep 19, 2006 09:41am

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Originally Posted by BoBo
Most of you know by now that i am an OU fan. I to agree that Borens letter is over the top as far as the game not counting. Think that is just a political stance to show that he is standing up for his school. Deep down he knows nothing will happen.

As far as the comment when OU wins they WON the game and when the lose they got cheated; show me one fan base who does not have that attitude among their followers. Most fans can be realist but every fan base has their share.

As far as the replay system itself in NCAA that as an official i would hate is the fact the Ref on the field is totally out of the review process. Unlike the NFL where they have a monitor on the sideline, he has put his fate in a guy upstairs. The crew is at the mercy of the upstairs review guy. In this case if the head ref sees maybe he does overturn it and this controversey is all avoided, but instead you have some guy up there playing god. As an official if i or my crew made the call let me review so i can live with my decision and solely my decision.


You probably would have won the game by 20 points if your starting QB wasn't making $25 an hour and a job he wasn't showing up for! Was that also the PAC 10 officiating crews fault or the reply officials fault?

Rich Tue Sep 19, 2006 10:28am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoBo
Most of you know by now that i am an OU fan. I to agree that Borens letter is over the top as far as the game not counting. Think that is just a political stance to show that he is standing up for his school. Deep down he knows nothing will happen.

As far as the comment when OU wins they WON the game and when the lose they got cheated; show me one fan base who does not have that attitude among their followers. Most fans can be realist but every fan base has their share.

As far as the replay system itself in NCAA that as an official i would hate is the fact the Ref on the field is totally out of the review process. Unlike the NFL where they have a monitor on the sideline, he has put his fate in a guy upstairs. The crew is at the mercy of the upstairs review guy. In this case if the head ref sees maybe he does overturn it and this controversey is all avoided, but instead you have some guy up there playing god. As an official if i or my crew made the call let me review so i can live with my decision and solely my decision.

Boren should get this passionate over something that doesn't involve intercollegiate athletics.

Texas Aggie Tue Sep 19, 2006 10:44am

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like Dallas Maverick fans
Actually more like SA fans. I watched every Mavericks playoff game this past year and I don't recall the Mavs fans chanting, in unison, "refs you suck" as SA fans did in game two of the WC semis (against the Mavs) while DOWN by 20+ points.


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