So you think he was being nice huh?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

As I said elsewhere, my ex calls me by my first name and that doesn't get her any brownie points either. I'll respond if they call me since that's what my mother named me but I don't want it to be a habit, especially if I'm calling them "Coach."

Just reminded me of something...thanks.

I've never seen such a divisive non-issue as whether an official calls a coach "Coach" or by his first name.

I've been using first names for going on 30 years. The fact I do that at my levels isn't going to be changed by some Referee magazine poll or by someone in my association telling me it's a bad idea, in their opinion.

At higher levels, I'd do what I'm told by the people who hire me, but at my level (HS varsity only) there isn't that level of control where I live.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by Rich

I've been using first names for going on 30 years.

I'll only call a coach by his first name if his name is "Technical".

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Rich

Just reminded me of something...thanks.

I've never seen such a divisive non-issue as whether an official calls a coach "Coach" or by his first name.

I've been using first names for going on 30 years. The fact I do that at my levels isn't going to be changed by some Referee magazine poll or by someone in my association telling me it's a bad idea, in their opinion.

At higher levels, I'd do what I'm told by the people who hire me, but at my level (HS varsity only) there isn't that level of control where I live.

I do not think it is a non-issue. It is an issue for some and that is the problem with the advice. It is also a values issue and you will offend the wrong people if you call them by their first name. That is why I do not call coaches by their first name unless I know both coach in a similar fashion and even then I default to "Coach" when referring or talking to them.

Ultimately you do what you want, but if you do not know me, I do not want you calling me by my first name. I do not do that in business or personal. You are Mr. or Mrs or Sir and Ma'am to me. I still do not even feel comfortable calling people by their first name that were adults when I was a kid. But I was raised that way and I still believe in that way of thinking.

Peace

[Sharpshooternes]

Originally Posted by Hugh Refner

Here's a quote from the article:

Get clarification from the referee on exactly what your player is doing wrong in the referees eyes so that you can tell the player to adjust.

Here's an example of what my answer would be regarding "get clarification": "Tell your player not to commit fouls."

I think that is a horrible answer for his question. The author's point was each referee is in a different point in their development. One referee may have in their mind something that is a violation or foul that a seasoned referee does not. The way this question is asked by the coach to the referee is to get from the referee on that game, what the player needs to do to prevent that call from being called against his player. Basically, the coach knows the rule but the referee may not. I think this is a very polite and productive way of approaching the situation that I am not going to get upset about.

[Rob1968]

Coach: "You gotta make some calls at the other end!"
Me: "I will, in the 2nd half!"
Coach: "Okay!" and then he sat down, seemingly satisfied with the outcome of our conversation . . .
Asst. Coach, to me: "I'll explain it to him later . . ."

Several of the ideas in the article can't/won't have any affect on the way an official works a game. They are only comments that may contribute to the communication between the coach and official.

[Welpe]

He's missing one very important point about drawing a technical. It's half way to getting sent to the showers plus he gets seat belted. I'm sure there are coaches that get T'd up on purpose but there are some unintended consequences to the approach he's advocating.

It'd be wildly entertaining to have a coach take his advice, go way too far and get a Flagrant T. "What do you mean I'm ejected? This guy on the internet said it'd be only two shots!"

[Rooster]

Wow. Just wow. I had a feeling I should have stopped reading after the title. EVERY call, huh?

[BktBallRef]

I posted a comment. it has to be approved by Coach Mac before it will appear.

I can hardy wait to see if he posts it or what his reply might be.

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

I posted a comment. it has to be approved by Coach Mac before it will appear.

I can hardy wait to see if he posts it or what his reply might be.

Could you share your reply with us?

[Coach Bill]

Many of you insult his credentials and level "Coach Mac" coached at, but I think the article is clearly written for beginner coaches and youth league coaches (where they do have the opportunity shake hands). In fact his whole website seems to be for beginner coaches. I don't envision high school coaches going to his site for advice. And, I think most of the advice he gives seems like good common sense. And, it probably would work to some degree with the officials in the youth leagues, many of which are youths themselves.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Welpe

He's missing one very important point about drawing a technical. It's half way to getting sent to the showers plus he gets seat belted. I'm sure there are coaches that get T'd up on purpose but there are some unintended consequences to the approach he's advocating.

It'd be wildly entertaining to have a coach take his advice, go way too far and get a Flagrant T. "What do you mean I'm ejected? This guy on the internet said it'd be only two shots!"

Or even better, he gets one technical after the other. That would be great too. Now he/sh is ejected and he/she just gave their team 2 more shots and lost the ball. That is a possible 7 point swing.

And many times when coaches get ejected, they act like we have to tolerate everything they do after the first one. Good luck with that one.

Peace

[rsl]

I don't like number 2. I know a lot of coaches, and I don't mind them calling me by my first name. But when a guy I just met starts repeating my name during the game, it is just annoying.