Frontcourt Corner Coverage

[eyezen]

This is specifically one of the "things to work on" this summer at camp in a memo passed down from John Adams to and through college supervisors...


*Shots taken in corners

Lead widens and opens to assist trail on shots taken in the corners. Make sure the shot attempt is clean then release to the post.

Depends on how your partners feel about you calling in their primary.

[JRutledge]

A big time official told me and others at his camp, "Who are they going to yell at if you do not get the foul?"

I tend to agree with him and on a very rare occasion, I get this call. Again rare, but if it is enough contact to get the foul, then get the foul.

Peace

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Depends on how your partners feel about you calling in their primary.

it should depend on what's best for the game, not your partners' personal feelings.

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

it should depend on what's best for the game, not your partners' personal feelings.

It should, but we both know that doesn't always happen.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Depends on how your partners feel about you calling in their primary.

Whenever I see someone post or say something about "who's watching your primary if you're looking there" or something similar, it lets me know exactly what kind of official that person is -- someone who doesn't care if the crew suffers as long as that person can say he had his primary covered.

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by Rich

Whenever I see someone post or say something about "who's watching your primary if you're looking there" or something similar, it lets me know exactly what kind of official that person is -- someone who doesn't care if the crew suffers as long as that person can say he had his primary covered.

The difference being one official who is an avid ballwatcher who's all over that shot from the corner while elbows are flying unabated underneath and the better official who maintains his primary surveillance but also maintains situational awareness and isn't fixated so much on his PCA that he's unaware of the wider view should something need to be called for the sake of the crew and the game. I think.

Originally Posted by Rich

Whenever I see someone post or say something about "who's watching your primary if you're looking there" or something similar, it lets me know exactly what kind of official that person is -- someone who doesn't care if the crew suffers as long as that person can say he had his primary covered.

Or PCAs are there for a reason and we should trust that our partners are getting what needs to be gotten (absent a game-deciding call).

That said, the philosophy is different in NCAA-M vs. high school.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Or PCAs are there for a reason and we should trust that our partners are getting what needs to be gotten (absent a game-deciding call).

That said, the philosophy is different in NCAA-M vs. high school.

Secondary coverage areas are there too for a reason and we should also expect that sh!t gets missed by our partners from time to time and they may need a second set of eyes on specific action.

That said, the philosophy is the same everywhere. Ref the game!

Originally Posted by deecee

Secondary coverage areas are there too for a reason and we should also expect that sh!t gets missed by our partners from time to time and they may need a second set of eyes on specific action.

I've never seen a secondary coverage area map that includes the corner as Lead. Can you provide one?

[hoopsaddict]

Originally Posted by AremRed

I've never seen a secondary coverage area map that includes the corner as Lead. Can you provide one?

NFHS Officials Manual 3.3.4 A (2):
If a shot is taken near an area where coverage intersects, the secondary official should be prepared to assist.

and

3.4.2 A (2):
Typically an official should call fouls in his/her PCA, but any foul observed should be called.

As a note, the lead mirroring the basketball to assist with the trail for on-ball action in the corner can also better officiate the drive to the basket that occurs from this area. Allowing the lead to see the entire play through its start, develop and finish phases.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by AremRed

I've never seen a secondary coverage area map that includes the corner as Lead. Can you provide one?

I've never seen a secondary coverage area diagram at all.

That said, if you are the Lead, and you have mirrored the ball out to the 3-point line, and you have nothing going on in the post, you'll look pretty incompetent if you don't call an obvious foul on that 3-point shot that happens 3 feet away from you, if the Trail misses it for whatever reason.

Say the 6' 8" post player comes out the sideline and sets a pick followed by quick 3-point shot on the baseline side of pick. Who should be helping the Trail if he gets blocked out by bodies.

As one of my supervisors likes to say, "sometimes you just gotta referee."

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Rich

Whenever I see someone post or say something about "who's watching your primary if you're looking there" or something similar, it lets me know exactly what kind of official that person is -- someone who doesn't care if the crew suffers as long as that person can say he had his primary covered.

Could be a person who is sick & tired of partners ball-watching and overriding a judgment by the primary official that a play is not a foul by putting a whistle on it. Also, the person could be fed up with having to cover and catch something off-ball for the crew in a partner's primary because that person is wrongly focused where the ball is.

[Toren]

Originally Posted by eyezen

This is specifically one of the "things to work on" this summer at camp in a memo passed down from John Adams to and through college supervisors...


*Shots taken in corners

Lead widens and opens to assist trail on shots taken in the corners. Make sure the shot attempt is clean then release to the post.

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