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Old Sat Jun 16, 2012, 09:27pm
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Dangerous or Corner?

About ten yards from the corner, attacker A-1 is attempting to play the ball on a high bounce. Defender B-2 kicks the ball near A-1's head. The ball goes over the goal line.

Do you go with an indirect kick ten yards from the corner, or a corner kick (which is direct)?
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Old Fri Jun 22, 2012, 10:34am
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Old Wed Jun 27, 2012, 08:45am
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Not a soccer ref... but taking experience from the way rules work in most situations in other sports...

Sounds like the high-kick happens before the ball travelling out of bounds. Is it true that the penalty for that was going to be enforce regardless of where the ball went? If so - then enforce that penalty. The OOB never happened.
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Old Wed Jun 27, 2012, 12:33pm
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About ten yards from the corner, attacker A-1 is attempting to play the ball on a high bounce. Defender B-2 kicks the ball near A-1's head. The ball goes over the goal line.

Do you go with an indirect kick ten yards from the corner, or a corner kick (which is direct)?
It depends on the game. If it's been chippy, had other dangerous plays, or is a low age/skill level, take the dangerous play. If not, it's trifling and take the corner.
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Old Fri Jun 29, 2012, 11:17am
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Is it true that the penalty for that was going to be enforce regardless of where the ball went?
Good question. As Eastshire correctly pointed out, it depends. There's a little more freedom and judgment used in soccer officiating than with other sports. In soccer, you can consider the advantage when penalizing most infractions.

The key difference here is that a corner kick is a direct kick (you can score directly from the kick), while a dangerous play consequence is an indirect kick (must be touched by another player for a goal to count). Ultimately, the question I'm asking is, which is more advantageous: an indirect kick from 20 yards, or a direct kick from 30? (I suppose that depends upon the level.)
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Old Fri Jun 29, 2012, 11:29am
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Good question. As Eastshire correctly pointed out, it depends. There's a little more freedom and judgment used in soccer officiating than with other sports. In soccer, you can consider the advantage when penalizing most infractions.

The key difference here is that a corner kick is a direct kick (you can score directly from the kick), while a dangerous play consequence is an indirect kick (must be touched by another player for a goal to count). Ultimately, the question I'm asking is, which is more advantageous: an indirect kick from 20 yards, or a direct kick from 30? (I suppose that depends upon the level.)
Either way, the offense is going to run a corner set piece. Since very few people can score directly from a corner, it's almost certainly going to be touched first. In that matter, it's moot. I think I'd rather have it at the corner so the kicker doesn't have to try to shorten his delivery.

So I get back to the same place, DP only if needed for game management.
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