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Old Thu Apr 17, 2014, 12:14am
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I want to address the shot clock issue:
I work in California ,which uses the shot clock with both boys and girls games, and am privileged to work with some very good table crews out here.The operation of the shot clock is very rarely an issue in our league.AD's here know it is important to provide highly qualified table staff and everybody does their best to make sure that all contests are staffed with qualified personnel.
I think the biggest issue is making sure each game has a qualified scorekeeper on it instead of someone who just gets the game 10 minutes beforehand.At my school I handle 3 of 4 games on a game day.I handle JV Boys,Varsity Girls,and Varsity Boys while a student handles JV Girls.I train any student scorekeepers myself and emphasize professionalism with them from the moment they start with me.I visited one school this year that had an 8 year old boy attempt to be the official scorer on varsity (they use the JV girls coaches wife for both JV games). When the officials saw this during pre-game warmups they transferred official scorer powers to me for both varsity games.
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Old Thu Apr 17, 2014, 12:08pm
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I want to address the shot clock issue:
I work in California ,which uses the shot clock with both boys and girls games, and am privileged to work with some very good table crews out here.The operation of the shot clock is very rarely an issue in our league.AD's here know it is important to provide highly qualified table staff and everybody does their best to make sure that all contests are staffed with qualified personnel.
I think the biggest issue is making sure each game has a qualified scorekeeper on it instead of someone who just gets the game 10 minutes beforehand.At my school I handle 3 of 4 games on a game day.I handle JV Boys,Varsity Girls,and Varsity Boys while a student handles JV Girls.I train any student scorekeepers myself and emphasize professionalism with them from the moment they start with me.I visited one school this year that had an 8 year old boy attempt to be the official scorer on varsity (they use the JV girls coaches wife for both JV games). When the officials saw this during pre-game warmups they transferred official scorer powers to me for both varsity games.
SoCal, you are truly the exception and not the rule. If I could fly you out here for my games I would. I just don't think most coaches or ADs at the HS level in NYC care unless a mistake affects them. I can't tell you how many times I've seen coaches running around five minutes before tip looking for a kid to run the game and/or shot-clock. Then when something goes wrong they want to get mad at the kid (or me and my partner).
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Old Thu Apr 17, 2014, 12:38pm
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SoCal, you are truly the exception and not the rule. If I could fly you out here for my games I would. I just don't think most coaches or ADs at the HS level in NYC care unless a mistake affects them. I can't tell you how many times I've seen coaches running around five minutes before tip looking for a kid to run the game and/or shot-clock. Then when something goes wrong they want to get mad at the kid (or me and my partner).
I will say this, around here, training wouldn't be an issue for 95% of the HS games. Most schools use a staff member (willingness unknown) for table duties during the games. Some might be a problem, but not many. I still think this is an unnecessary expense with very little benefit.
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Old Thu Apr 17, 2014, 02:43pm
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Adam-you're right.all of the schools in our league have at least 1 adult at the table.Half the league employs all adults at the table.At my school the AD runs our shot clock,a vice principal of academics runs the game clock,and I handle the book.If anybody has to miss a game we have several backup personnel ready with given notice.If we can do it and have no drop off then every school can do it.
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Old Thu Apr 17, 2014, 02:49pm
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Adam-you're right.all of the schools in our league have at least 1 adult at the table.Half the league employs all adults at the table.At my school the AD runs our shot clock,a vice principal of academics runs the game clock,and I handle the book.If anybody has to miss a game we have several backup personnel ready with given notice.If we can do it and have no drop off then every school can do it.
1. Your school puts the money and training time into it. Not every school does this (although I suspect most would to avoid embarrasment, if nothing else).
2. My main question is why? AFAIC, it's a solution in search of a problem. For the 1 or two games per season we hear about that end up 15-7 because of stall-ball (nationwide)? I just don't see it as worth the expense.

That said, if the states want to adopt it, I have no problem with opening it up that way: allow the state adoption to include the SC. I'd just be against it in my state, and against a mandatory use at the NFHS level (probably at least 10 years away).
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