NFHS Rules Changes Predictions/Rumors/Desires

[Coach Bill]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

You say the shooter has the biggest advantage? I think I see a shooter get the rebound maybe 3-4 times a year. Doesn't seem like a problem...the guys on the lane are 4 feet closer, they're fine.

It is a lot easier to judge the rim. You know exactly when it is going to happen. Guys are going in early only because no one calls it.

The shooter has an advantage in rebounding, in that when you wait for the hit, it is impossible to get across the lane in time to box him out (if the shooter makes an effort). When you go on the release, and the shooter has to wait for the hit, it is easy to box him out.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Coach Bill

The shooter has an advantage in rebounding, in that when you wait for the hit, it is impossible to get across the lane in time to box him out (if the shooter makes an effort).

I can see your point, but like Camron Rust stated earlier, it only happens, maybe, three, or four, times a year, i.e., free throw shooter getting own rebound (I think Camron Rust's numbers are a little too high), so I doubt that the NFHS sees this as a problem.

[Rich]

Neither way is a problem as long as officials are willing to:

(1) Call lane violations and

(2) Call rebounding fouls.

Wouldn't change my life either way, to be honest.

[Coach Bill]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I can see your point, but like Camron Rust stated earlier, it only happens, maybe, three, or four, times a year, i.e., free throw shooter getting own rebound (I think Camron Rust's numbers are a little too high), so I doubt that the NFHS sees this as a problem.

Full disclosure - I'm still bitter about the shooter getting a key rebound on us on a purposely missed free throw. It was a perfect miss - bounced hard back to him.

Also - I agree what other people said. Call the violations. I teach my kids to go in when the ball's about a foot away. We never get called. I also teach them, if the opponent goes in early - u go too. Because, it so rarely gets called.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Coach Bill

... the shooter getting a key rebound on us on a purposely missed free throw. It was a perfect miss, bounced hard back to him.

I've seen this tried several times as a player, coach, and official, and I've never actually seen it work. Usually the shooter violates by missing the rim and just hits the backboard.

[RefCT]

Thanks for clarifying what I was going to ask in a follow-up question Nevadaref.

Billy and Adam - I was not aware what the rule actually read, so thanks for pointing that out. I never even considered the change in rule (as stated in my OP) until a very veteran Varsity official (state finals guy) had the situation occur in a V game after my JV game and he said he knew the sub shouldn't have come in but let him anyway (it was a taunting call after a made basket, no PF). I then saw the same situation with other very veteran officials a couple other times.

Even though I only lurk most of the time, following this forum has expanded my knowledge tremendously and I thank you all. It is time I hit the books again this summer and really study on what the rules are saying.

Thanks everyone for the continued conversations. It is always giving me the "how would I handle the situation" question and it is interesting to see the different interpretations.

[RefCT]

Does anybody know when the new rules will be announced?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by RefCT

Does anybody know when the new rules will be announced?

The NFHS press release came out on May 8, 2013 last year.

(Imagine Carly Simon singing Anticipation here.)

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Coach Bill

The shooter has an advantage in rebounding, in that when you wait for the hit, it is impossible to get across the lane in time to box him out (if the shooter makes an effort). When you go on the release, and the shooter has to wait for the hit, it is easy to box him out.

If it is an advantage, they certainly are not taking advantage of it more. It is so rare that you go most of the season and not see this situation. Usually the guys closer are in a little early anyway and this does not even give the shooter a chance.

I just feel that we have a rule that is so inconsistently applied by official and we really need to just go back to what other levels do. It was never that rough in the first place. It is no different than any other rebounding situation.

Peace