To Another Player: "You F***ing Suck."

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by Adam

Agreed, but a Big Dawg screwing up shouldn't involve berating a newer official on the court, no matter how "privately" it was done.

That is pretty much what I was talking about...his screw up was in how he addressed his partner.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

That is pretty much what I was talking about...his screw up was in how he addressed his partner.

Yeah, I know. I would just have a hard time not writing off everything else that guy said. I'd smile, nod, and say the right things, but the message would get lost with the messenger on this.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Adam

Yeah, I know. I would just have a hard time not writing off everything else that guy said. I'd smile, nod, and say the right things, but the message would get lost with the messenger on this.

If you are more concerned with tone than message, you are going to miss out on some good advice in this avocation.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

If you are more concerned with tone than message, you are going to miss out on some good advice in this avocation.

I'm actually pretty good at picking up advice, and I almost always ask when I'm working with someone more advanced than I am. I won't say I'm "more concerned" with the delivery, but it's part of the package.

Most of the guys with good advice have to have it pulled, and to be honest, I've never had a partner do the stuff in the OP. I'd likely take the advice (separating tone from message is a learned skill that serves one well in the military) and parse it in my head, smile and nod, thank him for his advice, and can the bulk of it. If it's good advice, I'm likely to hear it from other officials who aren't dicks about it.

[Rooster]

Epilogue...
Big Dawg was working the championship game of this tournament and there was a foul early. The temperature of the game was rising a little and as he's administering the free throws he tells the players "We've got a good game here with two good teams. Don't f**k up my game, alright? Let's play hard and enjoy it. Don't f**k it up. Don't you f**k up my game." I put my chin in my chest and mentally shrugged.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Rooster

Epilogue...
Big Dawg was working the championship game of this tournament and there was a foul early. The temperature of the game was rising a little and as he's administering the free throws he tells the players "We've got a good game here with two good teams. Don't f**k up my game, alright? Let's play hard and enjoy it. Don't f**k it up. Don't you f**k up my game." I put my chin in my chest and mentally shrugged.

What level is this (I've lost track)? Because at just about everything above HS, I have no problem with this being said (relatively quietly to the players)

[Adam]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

What level is this (I've lost track)? Because at just about everything above HS, I have no problem with this being said (relatively quietly to the players)

This was, according to the OP, HS summer rec league.

I'm not sure what I think of it there, except it's probably regional. No way I could get away with it here (some might, but not me). Some areas, it may be standard practice. It comes across to me as a college tool.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

What level is this (I've lost track)? Because at just about everything above HS, I have no problem with this being said (relatively quietly to the players)

I know officials who have used comments like these. They have far more job security than I have.

As much as coaches curse at players, and players curse at teammates, depending where you are, it's not that big of a deal, IMO.