Common Sense

[MD Longhorn]

If I see it, it's a T.
If my partner saw it, passed on it, and tells me he saw it, it's a T.

This is not a judgement call.

If neither of us sees it, there's NO CHANCE I'm asking the scorekeepers if they saw it, and certainly no chance I'm asking any players.

[IUgrad92]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

If I see it, it's a T.
If my partner saw it, passed on it, and tells me he saw it, it's a T.

This is not a judgement call.

If neither of us sees it, there's NO CHANCE I'm asking the scorekeepers if they saw it, and certainly no chance I'm asking any players.

Since this is not a judgement call, I think you have a obligation to confer with the scorekeeper and/or timer as they are part of your crew.

I see this similarly to a situation if neither official saw if a basket was made on a shooting foul. This is not a judgement call either, the ball either went in the basket or it didn't. I would hope you would confer with your table in that situation, because you should.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by IUgrad92

Since this is not a judgement call, I think you have a obligation to confer with the scorekeeper and/or timer as they are part of your crew.

I see this similarly to a situation if neither official saw if a basket was made on a shooting foul. This is not a judgement call either, the ball either went in the basket or it didn't. I would hope you would confer with your table in that situation, because you should.

The rules tell us we can confer with the table for some scoring issues. I would not consult the table for something like this.

[VaTerp]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

The rules tell us we can confer with the table for some scoring issues. I would not consult the table for something like this.

Comparing this to a scoring ruling is ridiculous IMO.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by IUgrad92

Since this is not a judgement call, I think you have a obligation to confer with the scorekeeper and/or timer as they are part of your crew.

No. Definitely not. Scoring issues... not this.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by IUgrad92

Since this is not a judgement call, I think you have a obligation to confer with the scorekeeper and/or timer as they are part of your crew.

Not a chance.

[deecee]

I completely agree with Nevada on this one. I would not ask the scorer for help but if my partner did see it, and I said before, the onus is on us to call the T.

And I have had this T before. Team called TO in the 2nd/3rd qtr and their best player just runs to the basket and jumps and hangs on it.

As he did that and I was putting air in my whistle his coach was going "NOOOOOOOOOOO!" like in slow mo. Then he chewed the kid a new one. It was a pretty good holiday BV tourney.

After the game my partner asked me why I called it since it was a TO. I told him because it's a T by definition and not judgement.