Common Sense

[deecee]

I'm not asking and going on a detective spree. But if I were to have seen it, or my partner, no matter what it's a T.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by deecee

But if I were to have seen it, or my partner, no matter what it's a T.

Do you mean that if your partner tells you he saw it and passed on it, you would call a T?

[deecee]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Do you mean that if your partner tells you he saw it and passed on it, you would call a T?

I would ideally like him to make the call, but yes I would discuss it with him and if he didn't posses the testicular fortitude I would do the heavy lifting. It's a T, and not a judgement call.

I would also make it clear to him that I would report the situation to the assignor, if after a discussion he didn't want to call the T, and that he would be CC'd on any correspondence as he would be completely neglecting his responsibility.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by deecee

I would ideally like him to make the call, but yes I would discuss it with him and if he didn't posses the testicular fortitude I would do the heavy lifting. It's a T, and not a judgement call.

I think every T involves a certain amount of judgment with regard to the context of the action. Do you call a T every time somebody on the bench makes a travel signal? "shall not attempt to influence an official's decision."
Would you call one if your partner told you he had seen this?

A brief show of exuberance for a kid who erroneously thought the game was over is unlikely to draw a T from me, let alone if I hear about it second hand.
jmo

[OKREF]

Originally Posted by just another ref

I think every T involves a certain amount of judgment with regard to the context of the action. Do you call a T every time somebody on the bench makes a travel signal? "shall not attempt to influence an official's decision."
Would you call one if your partner told you he had seen this?

A brief show of exuberance for a kid who erroneously thought the game was over is unlikely to draw a T from me, let alone if I hear about it second hand.
jmo

This is my thought as well.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by OKREF

This is my thought as well.

Sometimes there is discretion in calling a technical foul and sometimes there isn't. For unsporting technicals, actions which everyone in the gym can see need to be dealt with according to the rules.
Passing on the action described in the OP would be wrong. There is a clear rule which the player broke and he did it in front of everyone.
Btw even if time had expired, if he did this before the officials left, he still gets penalized, so don't use the excuse that he thought the game was over.

[johnny d]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Btw even if time had expired, if he did this before the officials left, he still gets penalized, so don't use the excuse that he thought the game was over.

Let us know how the conversation with your assignor goes when you take the opportunity to call this after one of your games. I am sure your assignor will be pleased you got the rule right

[#olderthanilook]

Varsity level playoff game? Only two officials? If so, that may be one reason why the action wasn't seen by someone on the crew. Probably not the only thing the crew "didn't see" that night through no fault of their own. Just a thought.