It should be common sense, but...

[voiceoflg]

I saw this comment on another thread.

Originally Posted by Manny A

In all honesty, this is something I would never cover with my partner during pre-game. It should be common sense...

This made me think...what instances have you had where you thought something was common sense, but in hindsight you should have covered with your partner(s)?

[Manny A]

One that happened to me recently was when I had a two-man partner who covered catch/no-catch from the A position on balls hit from F8 all the way to foul territory. He caught me totally unaware as I tracked a ball going deep into center that F8 failed to catch at the fence. I didn't see him until the ball landed on the ground.

Thank goodness that the defense didn't appeal the BR's touch of first base, because I had no clue.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Manny A

One that happened to me recently was when I had a two-man partner who covered catch/no-catch from the A position on balls hit from F8 all the way to foul territory. He caught me totally unaware as I tracked a ball going deep into center that F8 failed to catch at the fence. I didn't see him until the ball landed on the ground.

Thank goodness that the defense didn't appeal the BR's touch of first base, because I had no clue.

So he used proper mechanics, then.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Manny A

One that happened to me recently was when I had a two-man partner who covered catch/no-catch from the A position on balls hit from F8 all the way to foul territory. He caught me totally unaware as I tracked a ball going deep into center that F8 failed to catch at the fence. I didn't see him until the ball landed on the ground.

Thank goodness that the defense didn't appeal the BR's touch of first base, because I had no clue.

Oh no...

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Rich

So he used proper mechanics, then.

Yeah, that ^^^

[MD Longhorn]

Not sure this exactly fits your topic, but most of the time, if partner agrees, when we're working long tourney's and it's hot (like, 6-8 games in a day, 2 on 1 off rotation), I tell partners doing plate that if we have a steal of 2nd on a passed ball, I'll rim the infield and take the play all the way to 3rd if it develops... saves them some running in the heat, and puts me in C when they don't go, which is most of the time.

So I go over this, partner agrees, and it happens... and I see him out of the corner of my eye as I'm saying SAFE (and selling it), he's saying out and starting to signal it. THAT was a mess.

[jicecone]

Originally Posted by Manny A

One that happened to me recently was when I had a two-man partner who covered catch/no-catch from the A position on balls hit from F8 all the way to foul territory. He caught me totally unaware as I tracked a ball going deep into center that F8 failed to catch at the fence. I didn't see him until the ball landed on the ground.

Thank goodness that the defense didn't appeal the BR's touch of first base, because I had no clue.

You are talking about the LF line , Right? i hope.

[Rita C]

Originally Posted by Manny A

One that happened to me recently was when I had a two-man partner who covered catch/no-catch from the A position on balls hit from F8 all the way to foul territory. He caught me totally unaware as I tracked a ball going deep into center that F8 failed to catch at the fence. I didn't see him until the ball landed on the ground.

Thank goodness that the defense didn't appeal the BR's touch of first base, because I had no clue.

Everyone is reacting oddly to this one.

Do you really expect BU in A to cover the centerfielder moving back on the ball?

Rita

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Rita C

Everyone is reacting oddly to this one.

Do you really expect BU in A to cover the centerfielder moving back on the ball?

Rita

Depends which way he turns. He turns towards me in A, I'm going out.

[Manny A]

Originally Posted by Rich

So he used proper mechanics, then.

Perhaps. But the overwhelming majority of the partners I've had will only take catch/no-catch from F9 to foul territory. Until this particular game, I cannot recall a partner going out on a fly to dead center.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Manny A

Perhaps. But the overwhelming majority of the partners I've had will only take catch/no-catch from F9 to foul territory. Until this particular game, I cannot recall a partner going out on a fly to dead center.

That is fine, but that is the mechanic and the option for the BU. Not sure why that would be hard to determine anyway. If my partner in the field goes out, I have everything on the diamond. It is really not that hard. It is one of the easiest mechanics to adjust to.

Peace

[jicecone]

Originally Posted by Manny A

Perhaps. But the overwhelming majority of the partners I've had will only take catch/no-catch from F9 to foul territory. Until this particular game, I cannot recall a partner going out on a fly to dead center.

Actually Manny, U1 probably has a lot better angle and is much closer than you are from home. Usually, my pre-game goes like this , U1-"if I go out I will let you know" Me- "Thats fine I will be able to tell anyway because your the only one dressed like me however, if you do I have the bases.

I am not saying he was right in going out for your game but you should have adjusted. The game still moves on and if you see your partner is locked in to the catch, you have to adjust and picked up the bases yourself. When part of the Team screws up, the entire team looks bad.

Also, this is why you don't leave to common sense.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

That is fine, but that is the mechanic and the option for the BU. Not sure why that would be hard to determine anyway. If my partner in the field goes out, I have everything on the diamond. It is really not that hard. It is one of the easiest mechanics to adjust to.

Peace

Exactly. If I see my partner turn his back and go, I know I've got everything unless we've pregamed differently. Pre-game is important and can help flesh out these things.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Manny A

Perhaps. But the overwhelming majority of the partners I've had will only take catch/no-catch from F9 to foul territory. Until this particular game, I cannot recall a partner going out on a fly to dead center.

Wow. While that might be "normal" in your area, and you should definitely follow the "when in Rome" principle, this mechanic is not commonly used or taught.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Manny A

Perhaps. But the overwhelming majority of the partners I've had will only take catch/no-catch from F9 to foul territory. Until this particular game, I cannot recall a partner going out on a fly to dead center.

That's not normal... but in any case, it's the PLATE umpire's responsibility to watch BU at the beginning of a fly ball to the outfield to see if he's going out. Many partners will say something if they go out, but that's often not heard anyway. YOU have to watch. If he goes out, he's got the fly ball and you've got, well, what you didn't get.