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Old Sat Feb 01, 2014, 11:16pm
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Team A makes a basket then calls time out. When you administer on the end line to B after the time out and they can "run the end line" where can you administer at at where can't you? Do you always start them near and end line and have them move after it is at their disposal? Can they request the ball midway between the lane line and the sideline? What if they want the ball right under neath the basket (I have always made them move out)?
By rule, the team has the entire endline. So the team member may begin anywhere along the endline. It would be improper for an official to insist that a player begin the throw-in at any particular location. There is no rules justification for that.
This isn't a designated spot throw-in.
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Old Sat Feb 01, 2014, 11:20pm
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By rule, the team has the entire endline. So the team member may begin anywhere along the endline. It would be improper for an official to insist that a player begin the throw-in at any particular location. There is no rules justification for that.
This isn't a designated spot throw-in.
I agree from a rules standpoint, but from a mechanics standpoint I'm not administering the ball while he's in the lane extended. He can go exactly where he wants as soon as I deliver the ball.
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Old Sun Feb 02, 2014, 04:17am
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I agree from a rules standpoint, but from a mechanics standpoint I'm not administering the ball while he's in the lane extended. He can go exactly where he wants as soon as I deliver the ball.
Since BY RULE the team has the right to execute the throw-in from any point along the endline following a goal (or awarded score) by the opponent, you would be dead wrong to refuse to administer the ball at his desired location. To force him to come to where you want and then have to move to his desired location during the five-second count unfairly takes time away from his team and has no rules support.

You may disagree with how I recommend to handle certain situations during a high school basketball game, such as penalizing a team for actions of the spectators, but everything that I advise doing isn't just because I like or don't like something, it can be supported by the rules.

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Old Sun Feb 02, 2014, 05:04am
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Since BY RULE the team has the right to executive the throw-in from any point along the endline following a goal (or awarded score) by the opponent, you would be dead wrong to refuse to administer the ball at his desired location. To force him to come to where you want and then have to move to his desired location during the five-second count unfairly takes time away from his team and has no rules support.

You may disagree with how I recommend to handle certain situations during a high school basketball game, such as penalizing a team for actions of the spectators, but everything that I advise doing isn't just because I like or don't like something, it can be supported by the rules.
I disagree. All the rule grants the player is the right to make the throwin from anywhere along the line. There is nothing in the rule that says anything about where they must or get to start such a throwin. It just gives them the right to move elsewhere.
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Old Sun Feb 02, 2014, 05:23am
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You know the guiding principle that whatever is not prohibited by the rules is allowed. So barring a rule which prohibits the player from getting the ball in a certain location, we need to permit it.
What's the big deal? Just throw him the ball.
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Old Sun Feb 02, 2014, 10:07am
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Since BY RULE the team has the right to execute the throw-in from any point along the endline following a goal (or awarded score) by the opponent, you would be dead wrong to refuse to administer the ball at his desired location. To force him to come to where you want and then have to move to his desired location during the five-second count unfairly takes time away from his team and has no rules support.

You may disagree with how I recommend to handle certain situations during a high school basketball game, such as penalizing a team for actions of the spectators, but everything that I advise doing isn't just because I like or don't like something, it can be supported by the rules.
Being right isn't always the right thing to do.

No reason to bring up other situations here. I'm sticking to the topic at hand.

This really is academic. If the player is in the lane extended, I'm moving him. If he insists on staying there after I try to move him, I probably would toss him the ball. Wouldn't happen and won't happpen.
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Old Sun Feb 02, 2014, 12:03pm
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You may disagree with how I recommend to handle certain situations during a high school basketball game, such as penalizing a team for actions of the spectators, but everything that I advise doing isn't just because I like or don't like something, it can be supported by the rules.
While I agree with you on the throw in issue at hand (I'd have no problem bouncing it to a player who wanted to start behind the basket), your advice to call a T on the team supported by unruly spectators isn't comparable.

While "it can be supported by the rules", it can also be career suicide. Further, not calling it is also supported by the rules. The rules very clearly give us discretion and a strong warning to use caution when going that route.

Both are probably once-in-a-career situations, but only one really has a chance to sabotage a career.
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Old Sun Feb 02, 2014, 12:53pm
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Mechanics ...

IAABO mechanics, and, maybe, the old NFHS mechanics, told us never to administer the ball to an inbounding player under a basket (in the lane).

Maybe the rules allow for a "run the endline", under the basket, inbound administration, but the mechanics don't, so I'm not doing it.

If I ever administered the ball to an inbounding player under a basket, it would be just my luck that the player would throw the ball so that it hit, out of bounds, on the back side of the backboard, or hit the edge of the backboard so that the pass went out of bounds, or worse, was intercepted. Then the coach, would have good cause to get "all over me".

No thanks. I've never administered the ball to an inbounding player under a basket, designated spot, or otherwise, and, as God is my witness, I never will.
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