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Old Tue Dec 03, 2013, 09:42pm
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Injured Player Sub/Free Throws

Want to make sure I got this right:

A1 is fouled in the act of shooting, awarded 2 free throws. As a result of the foul A1 hits the ground hard and injures his elbow, coach quickly comes out on the floor. At this point, coach has two options:
1) call a timeout to keep A1 in the game if A1 is able, or
2) substitute A6 for A1, A6 will shoot A1's free throws - (here is where I am unsure) is A1 eligible to return to the game after sitting a tick depute being removed and another player taking his free throws?.
I know I have heard that somewhere, but can't remember where and if it applies to NFHS or not.
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Old Tue Dec 03, 2013, 10:24pm
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Old Tue Dec 03, 2013, 11:52pm
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Just to be clear, correct that A1 may return or correct that A1 may not return?
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Old Wed Dec 04, 2013, 12:10am
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He may return
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Old Wed Dec 04, 2013, 07:27am
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Rule Set ???

I believe that the interpretation my be different in rule sets other than NFHS, i.e. NBA.

Unfortunately, I'm not the guy to comment on rule sets other than NFHS. Hopefully, someone with that ability will be moseying along in a few minutes.
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Old Wed Dec 04, 2013, 08:36am
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"Hearing" about it somewhere would make me look it up immediately, instead of going years wondering about a rule.

There are no rules in NCAA or NHFS that prevent an injured player from returning to a game.
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Old Wed Dec 04, 2013, 08:57am
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"Hearing" about it somewhere would make me look it up immediately, instead of going years wondering about a rule.

There are no rules in NCAA or NHFS that prevent an injured player from returning to a game.
Agreed. Plus, I always found something else while I was looking up the original question.

In NCAAM, the opposing coach chooses from A2 - A5 to shoot the FTs (assuming the player wasn't removed for blood).
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Old Wed Dec 04, 2013, 09:02am
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Agreed. Plus, I always found something else while I was looking up the original question.

In NCAAM, the opposing coach chooses from A2 - A5 to shoot the FTs (assuming the player wasn't removed for blood).
.... or due to a flagrant foul.
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Old Wed Dec 04, 2013, 09:14am
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Want to make sure I got this right:

is A1 eligible to return to the game after sitting a tick depute being removed and another player taking his free throws?.[/INDENT]
Are you asking if he can come in after the completion of the two throws or if he can come in after the 2nd throw and the pull is put in play and then play is stopped? I read your scenario like this...

A1 fouled hard and has to leave the game
A6 shoots the two throws
A1 comes in for shooter when the second throw is succesful
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Old Wed Dec 04, 2013, 09:25am
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Are you asking if he can come in after the completion of the two throws or if he can come in after the 2nd throw and the pull is put in play and then play is stopped? I read your scenario like this...

A1 fouled hard and has to leave the game
A6 shoots the two throws
A1 comes in for shooter when the second throw is succesful
That's not a possibility b/c A1 has sit out until the clock has properly started.
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Old Wed Dec 04, 2013, 09:29am
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Want to make sure I got this right:

A1 is fouled in the act of shooting, awarded 2 free throws. As a result of the foul A1 hits the ground hard and injures his elbow, coach quickly comes out on the floor. At this point, coach has two options:
1) call a timeout to keep A1 in the game if A1 is able, or
2) substitute A6 for A1, A6 will shoot A1's free throws - (here is where I am unsure) is A1 eligible to return to the game after sitting a tick depute being removed and another player taking his free throws?.
I know I have heard that somewhere, but can't remember where and if it applies to NFHS or not.
I'm curious; what makes you think any of this is incorrect?
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That's not a possibility b/c A1 has sit out until the clock has properly started.
Agreed...that is why I asked because I thought this was the scenario he was asking about and then all responses were that A1 could go back in. Just wanted to be sure his question was interpreted correctly.
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Old Wed Dec 04, 2013, 10:49am
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I'm curious; what makes you think any of this is incorrect?
The timeout to buy A1 in, removal after coach on floor to attend to A1, and A6 shooting A1 free throws I knew. The unsure part was A1 returning later after A6 has shot the free throws (and clock has properly started).

A previous (somewhat veteran) partner had told me he was ineligible to, and I had forgotten to look until the situation came up for me last night. I did not see it in the book but wanted to check with other people who have been around longer to make sure it wasn't an old case play or interpretation that showed that is how the Fed wanted it handled but didn't make a rule clear.
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I'm curious; what makes you think any of this is incorrect?
NBA rule? (Just guessing.)
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