NCAA vs FIBA Rules

[johnny d]

Allowing timeouts to be called during a live ball situation means the coaches decide the outcome of a game rather than the players..............wow!

[JRutledge]

What does calling timeout during a live ball really have to do with the coaches? It is not uncommon for a player on their own to get in some kind of trouble with the ball and request a timeout. Sounds like players are making many of those decisions if you ask me.

Peace

[SmokeEater]

I think it was a poor choice of words. But FIBA does not encourage live ball stoppages in play. Therefore making the game flow along faster and allows the players to decide the outcome.

Time Outs can only be called through the scorekeepers bench by the coach or assistant and only during a time stoppage.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by SmokeEater

I think it was a poor choice of words. But FIBA does not encourage live ball stoppages in play. Therefore making the game flow along faster and allows the players to decide the outcome.

Time Outs can only be called through the scorekeepers bench by the coach or assistant and only during a time stoppage.

Players always decide the outcome.

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by SmokeEater

Time Outs can only be called through the scorekeepers bench by the coach or assistant and only during a time stoppage.

If the Fed adopted this and if this rule had a Facebook page I would push the "Like" button.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Freddy

If the Fed adopted this and if this rule had a Facebook page I would push the "Like" button.

No way I'd want the FIBA rule for timeouts. It completely eliminates any chance at clock management late in the game.

Now, I would like to see coaches' ability to request timeout restricted to dead ball periods (including when the clock is running) and leave the rest to players. (It might actually force a lot more officials to understand when the ball is actually dead and when it's not.)

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by Adam

. . . I would like to see coaches' ability to request timeout restricted to dead ball periods (including when the clock is running) and leave the rest to players.

Assuming there is a bargaining process between coaches and officials before NFHS revises a rule, which of course is not true, I would be happy to settle for this as a reasonable middle ground.
We're fooling ourselves anyway. I'm struggling to recall the last time coaches had something given to them that they were willing to give up. It would be like waking up to find out the seat belt rule was reenacted or something.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Freddy

Assuming there is a bargaining process between coaches and officials before NFHS revises a rule, which of course is not true, I would be happy to settle for this as a reasonable middle ground.
We're fooling ourselves anyway. I'm struggling to recall the last time coaches had something given to them that they were willing to give up. It would be like waking up to find out the seat belt rule was reenacted or something.

Actually, I believe the state of Iowa went this route a few years ago. For a long time, the girls and boys had quite a few differences in rules (a legacy from the six player/half court days). A few years ago, they made some efforts to reduce the number of differences. One difference was that girls coaches were allowed use of the coaching box, while the boys Association did not utilize the CB.

When the effort was made to consolidate more rules, the girls' Union dropped the coaching box. Now, IMS, high school games in Iowa do not allow for use of the coaching box.

[LeeBallanfant]

Originally Posted by SmokeEater

I think it was a poor choice of words. But FIBA does not encourage live ball stoppages in play. Therefore making the game flow along faster and allows the players to decide the outcome.

Time Outs can only be called through the scorekeepers bench by the coach or assistant and only during a time stoppage.

I believe coaches can call a time out any time they want. It will be only be awarded during a time stoppage.

[SmokeEater]

Originally Posted by LeeBallanfant

I believe coaches can call a time out any time they want. It will be only be awarded during a time stoppage.

If I remember NCAA and Fed rules correctly, and I may be wrong as its been a few years, A coach can request a TO with time running and the officials will blow their whistle to grant the TO. therefore making your statement incorrect.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by SmokeEater

If I remember NCAA and Fed rules correctly, and I may be wrong as its been a few years, A coach can request a TO with time running and the officials will blow their whistle to grant the TO. therefore making your statement incorrect.

A coach that requests a timeout should only be granted when a player has control of the ball or a during a dead ball. Not that it matters that much, but it does matter if the request should be granted. And since FIBA does not allow timeouts to be granted the same way, that point needs to be made.

Peace

[Adam]

Originally Posted by SmokeEater

If I remember NCAA and Fed rules correctly, and I may be wrong as its been a few years, A coach can request a TO with time running and the officials will blow their whistle to grant the TO. therefore making your statement incorrect.

I think he was talking about FIBA.