NCAA vs FIBA Rules

[Luis]

Guys I'm currently writing an thesis about the different rules between NCAA & FIBA and I wonder if you can offer me any prospective/opinion.

1. Different rules you're concerning;
2. Benefit of that rule at either side;
3. Other thoughts
Ps, Miscellaneous topics are welcomed as well such as the unique zebra ref shirts/all-black shoes required (marked logos) etc.

Thanks

[JRutledge]

Most here are from America, so we rarely if ever deal with any FIBA rules. So I am sure I am not totally alone, I have no concerns about FIBA rules as it relates to NCAA or any other rules code for example. That being said there are certainly a few that are from Canada and other countries that post here. Maybe they can help, but they are not that big in numbers as those from this country, but certainly those can bring some perspective. Otherwise I am sure most rarely even think of FIBA rules except for every 4 years in the Olympics.

Peace

[Rich]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Most here are from America, so we rarely if ever deal with any FIBA rules. So I am sure I am not totally alone, I have no concerns about FIBA rules as it relates to NCAA or any other rules code for example. That being said there are certainly a few that are from Canada and other countries that post here. Maybe they can help, but they are not that big in numbers as those from this country, but certainly those can bring some perspective. Otherwise I am sure most rarely even think of FIBA rules except for every 4 years in the Olympics.

Peace

tl;dr -- Don't know, don't care, ask someone else.

[constable]

Fiba prefers to have the outcome decided by the players. That is why they don't allow for the calling of live ball timeouts. American rule sets gives far more control to the coaches.

When you scrape away a few goofy nuances that FIBA has the rules are quite similar.

[SmokeEater]

This is a presentation we received from the National Rules Interpreter when Canada was switching over to full FIBA rule set.

FIBA vs NCAA Rules Presentation

If this link doesnt open the presentation scroll down the page and find it.

[johnny d]

Allowing timeouts to be called during a live ball situation means the coaches decide the outcome of a game rather than the players..............wow!

[JRutledge]

What does calling timeout during a live ball really have to do with the coaches? It is not uncommon for a player on their own to get in some kind of trouble with the ball and request a timeout. Sounds like players are making many of those decisions if you ask me.

Peace

[SmokeEater]

I think it was a poor choice of words. But FIBA does not encourage live ball stoppages in play. Therefore making the game flow along faster and allows the players to decide the outcome.

Time Outs can only be called through the scorekeepers bench by the coach or assistant and only during a time stoppage.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by SmokeEater

I think it was a poor choice of words. But FIBA does not encourage live ball stoppages in play. Therefore making the game flow along faster and allows the players to decide the outcome.

Time Outs can only be called through the scorekeepers bench by the coach or assistant and only during a time stoppage.

Players always decide the outcome.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by constable

Fiba prefers to have the outcome decided by the players.

So...under NCAA rules, how many points, on average, do the coaches score?

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by SmokeEater

Time Outs can only be called through the scorekeepers bench by the coach or assistant and only during a time stoppage.

If the Fed adopted this and if this rule had a Facebook page I would push the "Like" button.

[LeeBallanfant]

Originally Posted by SmokeEater

I think it was a poor choice of words. But FIBA does not encourage live ball stoppages in play. Therefore making the game flow along faster and allows the players to decide the outcome.

Time Outs can only be called through the scorekeepers bench by the coach or assistant and only during a time stoppage.

I believe coaches can call a time out any time they want. It will be only be awarded during a time stoppage.

[LeeBallanfant]

Originally Posted by Luis

Guys I'm currently writing an thesis about the different rules between NCAA & FIBA and I wonder if you can offer me any prospective/opinion.

1. Different rules you're concerning;
2. Benefit of that rule at either side;
3. Other thoughts
Ps, Miscellaneous topics are welcomed as well such as the unique zebra ref shirts/all-black shoes required (marked logos) etc.

Thanks

The FIBA rule I think should be incorporated into US rules is the advantage rule on free throws. Offensive player, other than the shooter, violates on a free throw and shot goes in, ignore violation.

Worst FIBA rule is timeout from the bench. No reason for this

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Freddy

If the Fed adopted this and if this rule had a Facebook page I would push the "Like" button.

No way I'd want the FIBA rule for timeouts. It completely eliminates any chance at clock management late in the game.

Now, I would like to see coaches' ability to request timeout restricted to dead ball periods (including when the clock is running) and leave the rest to players. (It might actually force a lot more officials to understand when the ball is actually dead and when it's not.)

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by Adam

. . . I would like to see coaches' ability to request timeout restricted to dead ball periods (including when the clock is running) and leave the rest to players.

Assuming there is a bargaining process between coaches and officials before NFHS revises a rule, which of course is not true, I would be happy to settle for this as a reasonable middle ground.
We're fooling ourselves anyway. I'm struggling to recall the last time coaches had something given to them that they were willing to give up. It would be like waking up to find out the seat belt rule was reenacted or something.