Things Officials Should Probably Not Be Saying In A Game ...

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by rsl

From the manual:

D. Resuming Play:
1. At the warning signal (first horn) for all time-outs, and the intermissions
between the first and second and third and fourth quarters, the
officials will step toward the nearest team huddle and notify the coaches/
bench by raising an index finger and saying "first horn."

I do it, but I find this to be, for the most part, useless.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by just another ref

I do it, but I find this to be, for the most part, useless.

Most of the time I find it useful. There's usually an assistant coach who pays attention and will start telling the HC to get them out.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by just another ref

I do it, but I find this to be, for the most part, useless.

I have found it to be extremely helpful. The coaches are much quicker about getting their players out of the huddle. We're in the huddle after the first horn, and I have to resort to RPP about once every two seasons at most in high school games. Younger levels are different

[Adam]

The only thing I'm going to add to this list is: Anything during free throws except the number of shots left to take.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Adam

The only thing I'm going to add to this list is: Anything during free throws except the number of shots left to take.

I will say, "Let it hit", to Catholic middle school players, early in the game, during the early part of the season.

Also, here, in my little corner of Connecticut, private prep schools use hybrid rules, combining NFHS, and NCAA, rules. Occasionally a private prep school will play a public school, or a private prep school from another state. In the early part of these games, I will often say "On the release", as much of a reminder to the players as to my partner, and myself. Other than that, I agree with you.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Adam

The only thing I'm going to add to this list is: Anything during free throws except the number of shots left to take.

I would have a violation every single game if I did not make it clear they could not leave on the release.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I would have a violation every single game if I did not make it clear they could not leave on the release.

From the content of your many posts, I'm assuming that you're a veteran, experienced, official, working a demanding high school varsity schedule with some pretty good players in the Chicagoland area. Yet, you say that you have to remind them about this basic rule quite often? We seldom have to warn high school varsity players regarding this rule in my little corner of Connecticut.

Why the difference? Do different leagues that you service use different rules, i.e. hybrid NCAA, and NFHS, rules, like the private prep schools in my area? Or are your players just stupider than mine? Maybe your players are so talented that they are already thinking about their college careers, and college rules, whereas, many of my players are wondering where they parked their John Deere tractor in the school's parking lot, or if they remembered to lock up the chickens in the coop for the night.

Seriously, why the difference?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

From the content of your many posts, I'm assuming that you're a veteran, experienced, official, working a demanding high school varsity schedule with some pretty good players in the Chicagoland area. Yet, you say that you have to remind them about this basic rule quite often? We seldom have to warn high school varsity players regarding this rule in my little corner of Connecticut.

Why the difference? Do different leagues that you service use different rules, i.e. hybrid NCAA, and NFHS, rules, like the private prep schools in my area? Or are your players just stupider than mine? Maybe your players are so talented that they are already thinking about their college careers, and college rules, whereas, many of my players are wondering where they parked their John Deere tractor in the school's parking lot, or if they remembered to lock up the chickens in the coop for the night.

Seriously, why the difference?

Well I live in a big city area that is influenced heavily by the NBA and other levels. Kids around here can touch many NBA players and come from schools where NBA players currently have played. Actually many high school player play in Pro-Am Leagues over the summer or watch a lot of NBA and I am sure they do what they see. So yes, you have to remind them or you will have very obvious violations. And when you call a violation it is easy to say, "I told you to wait."

Peace

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I would have a violation every single game if I did not make it clear they could not leave on the release.

Peace

Short term memory problems?

[APG]

Originally Posted by Adam

Short term memory problems?

I wouldn't doubt it...I probably have a player, over half the time, ask whose ball it is after a timeout.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by APG

I wouldn't doubt it...I probably have a player, over half the time, ask whose ball it is after a timeout.

I get asked about once or twice a game that question by a player.

Peace

[Adam]

Originally Posted by APG

I wouldn't doubt it...I probably have a player, over half the time, ask whose ball it is after a timeout.

I get that one, too. Like Jeff, about once or twice a game.

But I never have to deal with the issue of when it's legal to enter the lane except in men's league games. Even then, you tell them once and they know the rest of the game.

It's just an odd rule to have to repeat, IMO.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by APG

I probably have a player, over half the time, ask whose ball it is after a timeout.

That's when I look down at the ball and say, "Uh - some guy named Wilson" (or Spaulding, or whatever).