I'll be Seeing These Guys Tomorrow

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by zm1283

Sure I get the point: You want them to cut pay or eliminate the amount of people at events to pay for a third official. My point is that they obviously don't care about a third official enough to do that. If they are getting along fine with two officials, why would they change?



Have you done a study on this? In this area of the country, I can tell you that this is completely false.

I work in the Chicagoland area and am in a wide variety of schools in both wealthy and low income neighborhoods and the in between. I have a pretty good sampling of what goes on in this densely populated area of the country. I still feel safe in saying 'most'. Where are you from?



These are the same guys complaining about not being able to find an administrator or supervisor when something goes wrong and they need game management. They want to have it both ways.

An adminstrator or supervisor does not fit under the term 'pork.

I'm talking about the hall guard sitting at a small desk playing words with friends for a few hours before she drives home for 50, 60 bucks.

As Adam said, it's priorities, the money is there, just don't say we'd like to but can't afford it.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by fullor30

An adminstrator or supervisor does not fit under the term 'pork.

I'm talking about the hall guard sitting at a small desk playing words with friends for a few hours before she drives home for 50, 60 bucks.

As Adam said, it's priorities, the money is there, just don't say we'd like to but can't afford it.

So either you have asked that lady how much she is being paid, or you are just throwing numbers around to make your point. Which is it?

And again...you think that those people should just volunteer their time? Or should take a pay cut?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

So either you have asked that lady how much she is being paid, or you are just throwing numbers around to make your point. Which is it?

And again...you think that those people should just volunteer their time? Or should take a pay cut?

I cannot speak for him specifically, but I have been told or even asked what we get paid and the people in those positions often will tell you what they are being paid. It happens a lot in football because you have more time to talk to chain gangs during games and they often have a lot to say and pay often comes up. It might come up in basketball when there are multiple games, but one game not much talk is associated about pay.

Peace

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

So either you have asked that lady how much she is being paid, or you are just throwing numbers around to make your point. Which is it?

And again...you think that those people should just volunteer their time? Or should take a pay cut?

I've asked.................several schools and various people

No, they should be paid.

My arguement is schools crying poor to have a varsity game properly officiated by adding an additional official for say roughly sixty a game
when in some cases, staffing could be reduced and everybody wins.

I don't begrudge someone for making extra money after school or on a weekend.

[jeremy341a]

The school I work for is very small. We only do 2 officials per night unless it is a 3 game night then there are 3 officials with each one setting out one game. Money is the main reason. The only people at our game who are getting paid are the officials $110 + milage(for one official), the scorekeeper at $15 per game, the timer at $15 per game and the Gatekeeper at $15 per game. The game management is the pricipal/athletic director. He gets no extra money for this. However his salary for AD was doubled this year to just a little over $3000. However you will see many teachers there who are not being paid and yes they will help out when needed. We are currently not replacing 4 teaching positions for the following year to keep from operating in the red. My school would notice the extra money for the 3rd official.