Block/charge video

[OKREF]

PC. I think that is the leads, even though it is in transition it is coming right at the lead. Sure looks like they had a barge.

I love how the Trail slides to the right and does the block motion when reporting the foul, essentially saying "I saw a better angle than you, the defender slid underneath, which makes this call a block". How arrogant.

Kudos to the Lead, I would be flipping my ish if my P had the audacity to 1) not trust me to make the call, and 2) make the wrong call. Lead handled it well.

[APG]

Originally Posted by seanwestref

I love how the Trail slides to the right and does the block motion when reporting the foul, essentially saying "I saw a better angle than you, the defender slid underneath, which makes this call a block". How arrogant.

Kudos to the Lead, I would be flipping my ish if my P had the audacity to 1) not trust me to make the call, and 2) make the wrong call. Lead handled it well.

I doubt he was doing that to tell his partner he had a better angle or to be arrogant. I think, more than likely, he's just trying to sell a really close call. To me, the only thing that was over the top is the jumping with the signal. The only thing I'll say is if you're going to make a display like that, you damn sure better get the call right (of which I have a charge).

Should the trail have let the lead get first crack at this play? Definitely...is it worth losing your cool over? Hell no...especially if it isn't a regular thing. I do agree that the lead did a good job of holding off on his signal..

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by APG

I doubt he was doing that to tell his partner he had a better angle or to be arrogant. I think, more than likely, he's just trying to sell a really close call. To me, the only thing that was over the top is the jumping with the signal. The only thing I'll say is if you're going to make a display like that, you damn sure better get the call right (of which I have a charge).

Should the trail have let the lead get first crack at this play? Definitely...is it worth losing your cool over? Hell no...especially if it isn't a regular thing. I do agree that the lead did a good job of holding off on his signal..

This was posted elsewhere along with another video with this same official. The T seems to make a habit of this kind of show from long distance. Wasn't his call from way back there as the L had a great look and the correct call. The L posted that he only gave it up because of that guy's theatrics.

[APG]

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap

This was posted elsewhere along with another video with this same official. The T seems to make a habit of this kind of show from long distance. Wasn't his call from way back there as the L had a great look and the correct call. The L posted that he only gave it up because of that guy's theatrics.

I saw the other play as well and also saw the lead's response to the play...again, I'm going to assume he's not being arrogant in his signals...he's just trying to sell, what in his mind, is a close call (which really wasn't that close from the angle provided). Should he tone it down a bit? Sure...but I'd be more concerned with the timing of his whistle...he should recognize that this is a secondary defender and his cadence on his whistle has to be a lot later if he has a whistle.

[Thumper68]

I have a PC al the way. Like others have said, I don't like that block mechanic either!

Originally Posted by APG

I doubt he was doing that to tell his partner he had a better angle or to be arrogant.

Did I say partner? I was meaning the crowd and the coaches. The thing is, there was no slide by the defender. The Trail demonstrating a slide was a fabrication. It's something that clearly did not happen, but the Trail used it to sell the call. That's what I think is "arrogant" -- to demonstrate something happening that clearly did not happen.

Originally Posted by APG

I think, more than likely, he's just trying to sell a really close call.

The only person claiming that is a "really close call" is the Trail in this very video. I have a PC foul, you have a PC foul, others in this thread have an "easy PC" foul. What he is trying to sell, is a wrong call. Which in this case he needs to demonstrate a slide which did not happen.

Originally Posted by APG

Should the trail have let the lead get first crack at this play? Definitely...is it worth losing your cool over? Hell no...especially if it isn't a regular thing. I do agree that the lead did a good job of holding off on his signal..

When I say I would be flipping my ish, I mean internally. I would of course back up my partner, but would hope that I would not have to point out his error, but would have someone more senior do that. In a close game, this call could have an impact on the outcome, which could have been avoided if the Trail trusted his P to make the correct call.

[APG]

Originally Posted by seanwestref

Did I say partner? I was meaning the crowd and the coaches. The thing is, there was no slide by the defender. The Trail demonstrating a slide was a fabrication. It's something that clearly did not happen, but the Trail used it to sell the call. That's what I think is "arrogant" -- to demonstrate something happening that clearly did not happen.



The only person claiming that is a "really close call" is the Trail in this very video. I have a PC foul, you have a PC foul, others in this thread have an "easy PC" foul. What he is trying to sell, is a wrong call. Which in this case he needs to demonstrate a slide which did not happen.



When I say I would be flipping my ish, I mean internally. I would of course back up my partner, but would hope that I would not have to point out his error, but would have someone more senior do that. In a close game, this call could have an impact on the outcome, which could have been avoided if the Trail trusted his P to make the correct call.

I'm not going to lambast the official if that what's he really thought he saw...it happens to everyone. Sometimes you see something that you honestly thought happen, and just didn't plain happen. I've seen D-I and NBA official call trips that didn't happen at all...and sell it to everyone in attendance....it's not different (strictly speaking signalling here). If he really thought he saw the defender slide in late, then I have no problem with trying to show that in his signaling (though he should tone it down a bit)...and I wouldn't call it arrogant.

Second part, I say it's a really close play in the mind of the trail. In his mind, he has a really close block/charge play...saw something subtle...and felt he had to sell it. Of course, it doesn't help, upon replay, that he got the play wrong. And his mechanics were off as well as far as who should have first crack at this play.

Finally, I'm still not going to flip on a call like this...internally or externally. I feel like this call isn't flip your sh** worthy. It would just be something I'd discuss with my partner after the game.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by APG

I'm not going to lambast the official if that what's he really thought he saw...it happens to everyone. Sometimes you see something that you honestly thought happen, and just didn't plain happen. I've seen D-I and NBA official call trips that didn't happen at all...and sell it to everyone in attendance....it's not different (strictly speaking signalling here). If he really thought he saw the defender slide in late, then I have no problem with trying to show that in his signaling (though he should tone it down a bit)...and I wouldn't call it arrogant.

Second part, I say it's a really close play in the mind of the trail. In his mind, he has a really close block/charge play...saw something subtle...and felt he had to sell it. Of course, it doesn't help, upon replay, that he got the play wrong. And his mechanics were off as well as far as who should have first crack at this play.

Finally, I'm still not going to flip on a call like this...internally or externally. I feel like this call isn't flip your sh** worthy. It would just be something I'd discuss with my partner after the game.

Exactly.

Until you can say you've never reached on a call in your life, there's no reason to get pissed on one single call like this. Although I can't imagine even putting a whistle on this unless it's a cadence whistle used only because the L had a complete brain fart.

[VaTerp]

Originally Posted by Rich

Exactly.

Until you can say you've never reached on a call in your life, there's no reason to get pissed on one single call like this. Although I can't imagine even putting a whistle on this unless it's a cadence whistle used only because the L had a complete brain fart.

We've all reached, we've all missed. We'll all reach and miss again.

But if I'm the L here Im still a little pissed at 1) the lack of trust showed by the T 2) the over the top theatrics on the wrong call and 3) the complete lack of awareness of the L's whistle and preliminary.

And then when you go to youtube you see this same official calling a block from almost 50 ft away with the same BS over the top mechanics. So he now appears twice on this organization's videos of incorrectly calling out of his area and with clownish mechanics.

For his sake and the sake of basketball I sincerely hope he's learned to stop doing this.

[#olderthanilook]

Question: Why is a college game being called with a two man crew?

[OKREF]

My favorite part is when he counts the basket like Indiana Jones swinging his whip.

[egj13]

Originally Posted by seanwestref

I love how the Trail slides to the right and does the block motion when reporting the foul.

I work with 2 guys that report their blocks like that every time..EVERY time...with the slide to the right. I have always thought it was ugly. Also, tell the guy in the video to count the basket before reporting.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by egj13

I work with 2 guys that report their blocks like that every time..EVERY time...with the slide to the right. I have always thought it was ugly. Also, tell the guy in the video to count the basket before reporting.

I am not sure you could tell that guy anything.