Block/charge video

[VaTerp]

Originally Posted by Rich

Exactly.

Until you can say you've never reached on a call in your life, there's no reason to get pissed on one single call like this. Although I can't imagine even putting a whistle on this unless it's a cadence whistle used only because the L had a complete brain fart.

We've all reached, we've all missed. We'll all reach and miss again.

But if I'm the L here Im still a little pissed at 1) the lack of trust showed by the T 2) the over the top theatrics on the wrong call and 3) the complete lack of awareness of the L's whistle and preliminary.

And then when you go to youtube you see this same official calling a block from almost 50 ft away with the same BS over the top mechanics. So he now appears twice on this organization's videos of incorrectly calling out of his area and with clownish mechanics.

For his sake and the sake of basketball I sincerely hope he's learned to stop doing this.

Originally Posted by VaTerp

And then when you go to youtube you see this same official calling a block from almost 50 ft away with the same BS over the top mechanics.

I think this is the video VaTerp is talking about.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by seanwestref

I think this is the video VaTerp is talking about.

That little slide during the report is just horrible to see.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by VaTerp

We've all reached, we've all missed. We'll all reach and miss again.

But if I'm the L here Im still a little pissed at 1) the lack of trust showed by the T 2) the over the top theatrics on the wrong call and 3) the complete lack of awareness of the L's whistle and preliminary.

And then when you go to youtube you see this same official calling a block from almost 50 ft away with the same BS over the top mechanics. So he now appears twice on this organization's videos of incorrectly calling out of his area and with clownish mechanics.

For his sake and the sake of basketball I sincerely hope he's learned to stop doing this.

I still probably wouldn't be pissed at this. I would probably bring it up in the locker room, though.

[twocentsworth]

This OP video, and the second video posted on page 2 of this thread are CLASSIC examples of why a play is much easier to officiate when the play coming towards an official rather than when it is moving away from an official.

Other than the fact that the calling official was wrong, I have no problem with his mechanics on these two plays. You have to know which 4-5 plays each game require you to sell it...and then SELL IT!

[Rich]

Originally Posted by twocentsworth

This OP video, and the second video posted on page 2 of this thread are CLASSIC examples of why a play is much easier to officiate when the play coming towards an official rather than when it is moving away from an official.

Other than the fact that the calling official was wrong, I have no problem with his mechanics on these two plays. You have to know which 4-5 plays each game require you to sell it...and then SELL IT!

There's never a need to leave your feet when selling a call.

[canuckrefguy]

I swear watching this guy twice he likes calling block just to use that ridiculous looking over-sell block signal.

Yikes.

[OKREF]

Looks bad.

Originally Posted by canuckrefguy

I swear watching this guy twice he likes calling block just to use that ridiculous looking over-sell block signal.

Assuming it is the same guy, at least in the second video the dude had the only whistle on the play. I didn't see anything from the Lead that looked like he was going to call something.

[canuckrefguy]

Originally Posted by seanwestref

Assuming it is the same guy, at least in the second video the dude had the only whistle on the play. I didn't see anything from the Lead that looked like he was going to call something.

And because there's bodies in the way of the camera, you can't really tell if it's actually a play that needs a whistle. Perhaps the lead passed for a reason.

[bob jenkins]

Neither official seemed to hold off on the preliminary or be aware of the other;s call.

[Tio]

Cue the guy who always inserts the California referee jokes.

This is really bad... 2 person game or otherwise.

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by VaTerp

We've all reached, we've all missed. We'll all reach and miss again.

But if I'm the L here Im still a little pissed at 1) the lack of trust showed by the T 2) the over the top theatrics on the wrong call and 3) the complete lack of awareness of the L's whistle and preliminary.

And then when you go to youtube you see this same official calling a block from almost 50 ft away with the same BS over the top mechanics. So he now appears twice on this organization's videos of incorrectly calling out of his area and with clownish mechanics.

For his sake and the sake of basketball I sincerely hope he's learned to stop doing this.

I agree with all of this, and I would definitely be having a chat in the locker room afterwards, especially on the first video. He needs to have a more patient whistle and trust his partner who obviously has the right call.

Originally Posted by twocentsworth

This OP video, and the second video posted on page 2 of this thread are CLASSIC examples of why a play is much easier to officiate when the play coming towards an official rather than when it is moving away from an official.

Other than the fact that the calling official was wrong, I have no problem with his mechanics on these two plays. You have to know which 4-5 plays each game require you to sell it...and then SELL IT!

There is a difference between selling a call and looking like an absolute fool, and he is the latter. He would get made fun of around here for signals like that.

Like others have said, if you're going to use silly signals/mechanics like that, you had better be damn good and had better get calls right. In the second video he's looking through about three players when the contact happens.

[JetMetFan]

So...to answer the questions presented at the beginning of each clip:

Play #1: For the T...Try not to call outside of your PCA but if you do, avoid giving a preliminary signal on calls outside of your PCA. Following a dribbler to the goal isn't a bad thing but be aware you have a partner (or two) out there. I would hope someone, anyone would address him about his mechanics.

Play #2: For the T...See play #1. For the L...Don't ball watch. The reason he didn't even pull the trigger on some sort of call is he watched the flight of the ball as opposed to the players. If T hadn't put a whistle on the play there probably wouldn't have been one at all.

[VaTerp]

Originally Posted by twocentsworth

This OP video, and the second video posted on page 2 of this thread are CLASSIC examples of why a play is much easier to officiate when the play coming towards an official rather than when it is moving away from an official.

Other than the fact that the calling official was wrong, I have no problem with his mechanics on these two plays. You have to know which 4-5 plays each game require you to sell it...and then SELL IT!

Could not disagree more.

You sell a call with your voice, presence, and STRONG mechanics. Not jumping around and making over the top gestures.

He looks, particularly in the first clip, like a clown. Period. That doesnt sell the call. It just makes the fact that he got the call wrong that much worse.