Block/charge video

[Welpe]

It seems in both of these plays that the lead has a better look but I'm under the impression in many cases with two man mechanics that the call should be primarily the trail's because the drive originates from his primary. What am I missing here?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Welpe

It seems in both of these plays that the lead has a better look but I'm under the impression in many cases with two man mechanics that the call should be primarily the trail's because the drive originates from his primary. What am I missing here?

I'm more interested in whose primary the defender came from. Pretty hard to referee the defense when he's in the L's primary and the T is watching the drive.

In my world, we still go by "who is the play coming to" when the play ends up in that official's primary. Maybe it's "old style" thinking, but it works for me.

[mplagrow]

After watching both videos, I think T is an actor planted by the association to provide some good 'how not to officiate the blarge from trail' footage. I'm with those who say the overacting brings his credibility into question, it's like the kid who lies and gets a little too vehement in defending it. You can tell he's trying to sell something you're not buying. You can be calm and confident and give good mechanics, and have confidence in your voice when you report it, and that's good enough.

With his antics, I'm not going to get into it on the court even if I know he's wrong. But in postgame, I'm having a long talk about areas, proper mechanics, and the importance of eye contact/communication on close calls.

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by Rich

I'm more interested in whose primary the defender came from. Pretty hard to referee the defense when he's in the L's primary and the T is watching the drive.

In my world, we still go by "who is the play coming to" when the play ends up in that official's primary. Maybe it's "old style" thinking, but it works for me.

This is exactly how we pregame in 2-person mechanics. Let the Lead have the first crack at these types of plays since the play is coming at him and the defender is in his primary.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by Rich

I'm more interested in whose primary the defender came from. Pretty hard to referee the defense when he's in the L's primary and the T is watching the drive.

In my world, we still go by "who is the play coming to" when the play ends up in that official's primary. Maybe it's "old style" thinking, but it works for me.

I think that makes more sense. Thanks.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Joey Crawford's grandson????

That was a PC all day and hopping up and down like that doesn't change it.

Ha Ha! Exactly. from the Pia Zodora school of acting, besides a bad call IMHO he looks silly. I don't think he ever saw or heard his partner

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by VaTerp

Could not disagree more.

You sell a call with your voice, presence, and STRONG mechanics. Not jumping around and making over the top gestures.

He looks, particularly in the first clip, like a clown. Period. That doesnt sell the call. It just makes the fact that he got the call wrong that much worse.

Agreed......laughable

[OKREF]

Originally Posted by Welpe

It seems in both of these plays that the lead has a better look but I'm under the impression in many cases with two man mechanics that the call should be primarily the trail's because the drive originates from his primary. What am I missing here?

I know here in my corner of Rome, if it is coming towards the Lead, we let the lead take it. If we have a double whistle, the lead has it.

[egj13]

Originally Posted by seanwestref

I love how the Trail slides to the right and does the block motion when reporting the foul.

I work with 2 guys that report their blocks like that every time..EVERY time...with the slide to the right. I have always thought it was ugly. Also, tell the guy in the video to count the basket before reporting.

[egj13]

Originally Posted by VaTerp

Easy PC.

I don't really remember how this is taught in two person but the L had the defender all the way and was making the correct call.

In our pool that would be the T's call initially but we always TRY and I stress try to make eye contact on a double whistle before just blowing up a call. You can sell a call just as effectively and still make eye contact ahead of the signal...and IMO, he oversold the call to the point that I would think he knew he was wrong by how hard he tried to sell it.

Kudos to the L...and I might not confront the guy on the call but he would go on my block list so I didn't have to work with a guy that acts like that.

[zm1283]

That first video makes me have less respect for that guy every time I watch it. This is one of the things people are talking about when they accuse officials of drawing attention to themselves. He looks like a clown. Has he never been evaluated, or do the powers-that-be in that area like these mechanics?

[#olderthanilook]

Question: Why is a college game being called with a two man crew?

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by #olderthanilook

Question: Why is a college game being called with a two man crew?

What makes you think it is a college game? No restricted area circle, no shot clock....

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by #olderthanilook

Question: Why is a college game being called with a two man crew?

It's a high school game in California, they are just wearing the side panels shirts.

[#olderthanilook]

Originally Posted by Welpe

It's a high school game in California, they are just wearing the side panels shirts.

That makes the antics look even more foolish. College officials dancing around like jumping jack flash on a high school court.