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Old Wed Jan 30, 2013, 05:55pm
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Seems redundant, but I and others on our most frequent crews first do the hand behind the head then give the team control punch for which way it's going.
What I eschew is the weak, wimpy index finger at the end of a slightly bent elbow just pointing "the other way."
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Old Wed Jan 30, 2013, 06:01pm
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What I eschew is the weak, wimpy index finger at the end of a slightly bent elbow just pointing "the other way."
Definitely the worst of all!
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Old Wed Jan 30, 2013, 06:21pm
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What I eschew is the weak, wimpy index finger at the end of a slightly bent elbow just pointing "the other way."
Where's the word 'effete' when you need it?
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Old Wed Jan 30, 2013, 10:24pm
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What I eschew is the weak, wimpy index finger at the end of a slightly bent elbow just pointing "the other way."
Then you won't like seeing Joey Crawford calling offensive fouls...

And I'll still contend that this signal looks better then the silly looking hand behind the head...which I think looks even worse coupled with a point or punch with the other hand.
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Old Wed Jan 30, 2013, 10:54pm
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Fist up, then behind head, then punch "team-control" style in other direction...all with the same hand
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Old Thu Jan 31, 2013, 08:42am
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As the team control punch has been officially stricken from the approved signal chart here in Ohio (yes even for team control fouls), all I give is the hand behind the head followed by a direction with the same hand.

We aren't allowed the TC punch because it's "too confusing to coaches."
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Old Thu Jan 31, 2013, 08:45am
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Fist up, then behind head, then punch "team-control" style in other direction...all with the same hand
That's the "by the book" mechanic. I probably have seen zero officials use it here, including myself. As was said before, it just looks weak to me.

I'll use the hand behind the head when reporting, but not at the spot. At the spot, it's normally a punch out with the right arm followed by a step and a punch with the left arm. Hard to describe, really.
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Old Thu Jan 31, 2013, 08:51am
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On the spot I do behind-the-head or just point with loud "offensive" accompanying it.

I want to change to a fist up with one hand and a punch with the other hand as I bring my fist down but I keep forgetting once I'm in the heat of action. I'll continue to go behind my head with when reporting to the table.
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Old Thu Jan 31, 2013, 11:29am
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On the spot, I don't think I have ever gone behind the head except maybe when I was doing intramural ball in college.

The main guy who trained me after college always said the punch looked much stronger and that's what I have typically done.

Depending on what type of play it is I also increasingly find myself going with a strong point (not exactly sure what the reference to the wimpy point with slightly pint elbow is) and saying "offense."

At the table I go behind the head then point with the same hand.
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Old Thu Jan 31, 2013, 11:34am
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On the spot, I don't think I have ever gone behind the head except maybe when I was doing intramural ball in college.

The main guy who trained me after college always said the punch looked much stronger and that's what I have typically done.

Depending on what type of play it is I also increasingly find myself going with a strong point (not exactly sure what the reference to the wimpy point with slightly pint elbow is) and saying "offense."

At the table I go behind the head then point with the same hand.
On a run of the mill offensive foul, I've been known to do that as well
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Old Thu Jan 31, 2013, 02:40pm
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On the spot, I don't think I have ever gone behind the head except maybe when I was doing intramural ball in college.

The main guy who trained me after college always said the punch looked much stronger and that's what I have typically done.
The punch came into the NFHS signal chart either in 2005 or 2006. In the summer of 2006 I was at a college camp and did a punch for an illegal screen. After the game our muscular observer asked me what the hell that was. My partners even chimed in that it was the new FED signal for TC control foul. Observer (remember college camp) said he didn't like it, he preferred just pointing the other way. So that has subconciously stuck with me ever since and I haven't been able to incorporate the punch into my mechanics.
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Old Thu Jan 31, 2013, 10:56pm
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I hate the PC mechanic. It is weak. Doesn't allow you to properly sell the call. Why NFHS and NCAA still legislate it is beyond me.

When I do a HS game I try to use the behind the head signal. The problem in Ontario lies with the fact we do almost as many FIBA games as we do Federation.

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