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AremRed Wed Jan 30, 2013 03:16pm

Player control signal?
 
When I call a player control foul, what should I do with the other hand? It feels weird to just let it dangle, and it is hard to be emphatic about placing your signalling hand and arm behind your head. It has no oomph. I have resorting to doing a pseudo team control-punch with the other hand. Is this wrong? Is there a better alternative?

rekent Wed Jan 30, 2013 03:20pm

I know this is not by the book, but everywhere I have been the custom (among officials, not hardline evaluators) is just to do the punch for an offensive foul at the time of calling, regardless of type.

Then when reporting, just the hand behind head and verbalizing player-control if that is what the particular call was.

APG Wed Jan 30, 2013 03:24pm

I don't even use the player control signal...at the spot nor at the table. It might be one of the weakest officiating signals in all of sport. I use the team control punch.

Raymond Wed Jan 30, 2013 03:24pm

If one hand is behind my head the other one is pointing the direction we will now be going.

Treeguy Wed Jan 30, 2013 03:27pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by badnewsref (Post 875933)
if one hand is behind my head the other one is pointing the direction we will now be going.

+1

JRutledge Wed Jan 30, 2013 03:29pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 875933)
If one hand is behind my head the other one is pointing the direction we will now be going.

That is what I do.

Peace

rekent Wed Jan 30, 2013 03:29pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by APG (Post 875932)
I don't even use the player control signal...at the spot nor at the table. It might be one of the weakest officiating signals in all of sport. I use the team control punch.

I absolutely agree and wish I could just go with this always. I have had evaluators rip me, repeatedly, because I "do not have a sufficient understanding of basic mechanics" because I don't do a by-the-book PC call. :mad:

Stupid...

APG Wed Jan 30, 2013 03:32pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by rekent (Post 875937)
I absolutely agree and wish I could just go with this always. I have had evaluators rip me, repeatedly, because I "do not have a sufficient understanding of basic mechanics" because I don't do a by-the-book PC call. :mad:

Stupid...

I'm guessing they'd get on you for using fists on the hips for a block instead of hands on the hip (which is another weak signal)...but when in Rome.

OKREF Wed Jan 30, 2013 03:34pm

I had a PC last night. Just came out with the punch. When I reported, used the PC signal. I rarely go behind the head on the initial play anymore.

rekent Wed Jan 30, 2013 03:35pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by APG (Post 875938)
I'm guessing they'd get on you for using fists on the hips for a block instead of hands on the hip (which is another weak signal)...but when in Rome.

Oh yes, I have been dinged for that one too... and yet when the same person officiates guess what I see?

OKREF Wed Jan 30, 2013 03:36pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by APG (Post 875938)
I'm guessing they'd get on you for using fists on the hips for a block instead of hands on the hip (which is another weak signal)...but when in Rome.

Agreed. Initial call, use the fist. At the table I go with the hands.

Mark Padgett Wed Jan 30, 2013 03:36pm

I put one hand behind my head and use the other to point to a hot mom in the bleachers. My partners really appreciate it. :)

Raymond Wed Jan 30, 2013 03:39pm

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Originally Posted by rekent (Post 875941)
Oh yes, I have been dinged for that one too... and yet when the same person officiates guess what I see?

Don't know your experience level but if you are relatively new or trying to move up to the the observor's level one of the things they want to know is if you do know all the proper mechanics.

Before you can vary from the book you have to prove that you know the book. ;)

bob jenkins Wed Jan 30, 2013 03:39pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by seanwestref (Post 875927)
When I call a player control foul, what should I do with the other hand? It feels weird to just let it dangle, and it is hard to be emphatic about placing your signalling hand and arm behind your head. It has no oomph. I have resorting to doing a pseudo team control-punch with the other hand. Is this wrong? Is there a better alternative?

i put the other hand on my hip and then shake back and forth a bit. ;)

this also works for a self-called blarge.

Mark Padgett Wed Jan 30, 2013 03:42pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 875946)
i put the other hand on my hip and then shake back and forth a bit. ;)

Didn't I see you on "America's Got Talent"? :D


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